Episode 295: “Why I Carry 145 Rounds on the Job” – The Story of Tim Gramins

Topic: “Why I Carry 145 Rounds on the Job” – The Story of Tim Gramins

Today, Riley interviews Tim Gramins, an Illinois law enforcement officer who was involved in a harrowing fight for his life from a gang member that was intent on killing. Officer Gramins ultimately prevailed, but only after shooting the suspect more than a dozen times including at least 6 rounds that were fatal wounds, and yet somehow the thug kept on coming. Tim talks with us about what this shootout taught him, what prepared him for that day, and what about it caused him to make some changes to his loadout and current preparation. Tune in for an interview you'll never forget!

Read Tim Gramins' story on Police One at: https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/

Check out actual images from this incident down below.

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Photos from the Tim Gramins Shootout

(All photos and information below obtained from FOIA-requested reports from Illinois Better Government Association)


About Riley Bowman

Riley Bowman is the Director of Training at ConcealedCarry.com and the Host of the Concealed Carry Podcast. He came up in this world initially through his 8-year experience with a state-level law enforcement agency in Colorado. Riley has trained extensively under instructors such as: Rob Leatham, Mike Seeklander, Tim Herron, Scott Jedlinski, Matt Little, Kyle Lamb, Dave Spaulding, Jeff Gonzales, Bill Blowers, Chuck Pressburg, and others, amassing many hundreds of hours of formal shooting and tactics training. He is an NRA Pistol Instructor, a Colorado P.O.S.T. Handgun and Patrol Rifle Instructor, a graduate of Trident Concepts Concealed Carry Instructor course, and a Modern Samurai Project Endorsed Instructor. He also competes in USPSA and 3-gun competitions including numerous top-10 finishes at major matches and championships. He is the current USPSA Carry Optics Colorado State Champion and most recently won 3rd place in Master Class at the 2022 USPSA Carry Optics National Championship.


  1. Lorenzo on February 24, 2019 at 11:26 am

    I read about this incident a while back. Thankfully the good guy came out on top. I just finished the podcast, and I want to say to Officer Gramins, thank you sir, for your support of the the second amendment and civilian carry. We, or I should say, I don’t hear that a lot from front line officers here in Connecticut. I have already passed this one on to my friends.

    Thank you , God Bless, and stay safe always.


  2. Mark Bateman on May 20, 2019 at 9:49 am

    What an excellent hour I invested in listening to this podcast. Thank you for making it happen. Without me transcribing it myself, is there any resource of a transcription of the interview?

    • Jacob Paulsen on May 20, 2019 at 4:30 pm

      Not we don’t currently do a transcription. Sorry Mark!

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