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Caution: Honor Guard Fires Upon Impact, Discontinue Use

UPDATE: Our own test and results together with a brief video are posted here: Dropping the Honor Guard 9mm: What We Discovered

A couple different firearm publications have put videos out confirming that the Honor Guard, from Honor Defense, fires when dropped or lightly tapped from behind. As you can imagine, this is not good, and certainly not safe. At this time we are recommending all gun owners who own a firearm from Honor Defense to discontinue use, and wait for the proper response from the company to take care of their customers to ensure everyone's safety.

Safety is our number one priority here at concealedcarry.com, and the last thing any of us ever want is for one of you to get hurt while handling your firearms, which is why we have decided to get involved by letting you know about this, even though we cannot verify the info because we haven't tested it ourselves.

However, the fact remains that a few different people have simulated a drop/impact fire with the Honor Guard, and its use, concealed carry or otherwise, should be discontinued until it's addressed.

Now, it goes without saying that we all want to handle our firearms safely, and the goal should never be to drop any firearm, ever. But, accidents do happen so those comments that sound something like this: “Well, just don't drop your gun and you'll be fine” are not something we are going to listen to.

The correct answer, is no, you shouldn't drop your firearm. In addition to that, though, firearms should not fire when dropped or otherwise impacted. And, as Jeremy S. pointed out on his YouTube channel, not a lot of force is needed to make this gun fire. Could it go off if you bump into a table? A chair? A wall? If you lose your balance and fall just right on it?

I know that I, personally, am not willing to be the test dummy to see if it fires in those situations. Long story short, this issue needs to be fixed, and quickly, before someone gets hurt. Thanks to Patrick of The Firearm Rack for finding this issue, and to Jeremy S. for putting up a video confirming. Here is his video:

We do not impact-test handguns when when we test them, but this will likely change now as this seems to be a growing problem. I'm going to suggest to my fellow gun reviewers here at concealedcarry.com to come up with a method to test whether or not a firearm will accidentally discharge a round when dropped or otherwise impacted. This is something that we have failed to do until now, but rest assured that we will rectify this situation.

I urge you at this point to reach out to Honor Defense and ask them to fix this for you if you own one of the affected pistols. At this point the company is not responding appropriately, but two people have reported this issue now, and they need to at least look into it and issue a statement regarding the problem the pistols have and how they plan to address it going forward.

**Keep in mind that none of us have tested this pistol to see if it fires upon an impact, so we urge you to do some more research into this. Our main goal is safety, and the last thing we want is for one of you to get hurt. So while we can neither confirm nor deny if they impact fire, we at least need to pass along the info. Also keep in mind that as of right now, Honor Defense holds their position that their pistol passed all tests put forth by government standards.**

Do you own an Honor Defense pistol? If so, have you noticed any issues with it? Let us know in the comments below.

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8 Responses to Caution: Honor Guard Fires Upon Impact, Discontinue Use

  1. Gary Ramey December 21, 2017 at 4:54 pm #

    Hi Josh,
    This is Gary with Honor Defense.
    How about we do a podcast with your folks so I can fill in some blanks and tell them more about the firearms.
    I’d like to talk about USA safety standards and how drop tests are conducted.
    Obviously we have seen the video and assessing, we can talk about what we are doing.
    Any interest in providing info from the gun company as well?

    • Joshua Gillem December 21, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

      Gary, I’ll bring it before the folks in charge of the podcast, and we’ll see what we can do. Of course we are willing to do whatever we can and your info is important, as well. We’ll be in touch. I believe I have your email address, and if you need mine it is [email protected].

      Thanks for reaching out,

      Josh

  2. Billy Richison December 21, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

    Sounds to me like someone got butthurt about something and is trying to tear down a great company and great weapon by manipulating said weapon.
    I don’t have much faith in someone that gives a review, good or bad, while using a doll house for a backdrop! He should have opened the package in front of the camera instead of just having one he said was brand new, I have a box also and could claim the same thing. My Honor Guard functions as it should and is drop safe, quit trying to kill the Shield killer!

  3. Jimmy Williams December 21, 2017 at 6:43 pm #

    If this thing was that sensitive, I would be singing soprano by now.

  4. Shannon Mooney December 21, 2017 at 8:58 pm #

    Video cuts away both times after the primer round is loaded and comes back for the mallet strike. Why cut away? Leaves room to think something is being manipulated off camera.

  5. Janice Larson December 22, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

    I have the Honor Guard! One issue was the rear sight moved so company sent a screw to stable the sight! Should I contact the company regarding this issue?

    • Jacob Paulsen December 22, 2017 at 7:33 pm #

      Janice, as you can see above, the company is aware of these reports. We are in contact now with them. I would encourage you to reach out to them for sure.

  6. Jacob Paulsen December 22, 2017 at 7:40 pm #

    Went out and bought one today. Just finished testing and was able to duplicate the discharge both on drop and with the mallet. Video is forthcoming.

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