The Truth About Guns Facebook Ban
It's turning out to be quite the interesting news cycle. A lot of crazy stuff is happening to some good friends of ours and just when I think things will start to settle down, something else happens.
Everything has shifted from “orange man bad” to banning “coordinated inauthentic behavior.”
Well, orange man apparently still bad, but he seems to be the topic a lot less now that they cut him almost completely off from his supporters.
But to get back to the point, what is coordinated inauthentic behavior? What exactly does that mean?
Nobody really knows, besides maybe the people who make this stuff up over at the Book. But it seems as though differing opinions are not only no longer allowed, but so frowned upon that it will get you banned from the Facebook page you put so much work into growing.
Such is the case for our good friends over at The Truth About Guns, who had their Facebook page deleted just a few days ago.
Dan Zimmerman, their managing editor, said he woke up one day to login and their page was gone. All 400,000, or so, followers were gone. Their page was nonexistent as if it had never even been there.
Nada.
Zilch.
Zero.
Toast …
In a Houston Chronicle story published last week, Zimmerman said this:
We’ve done literally nothing that we haven’t been doing for ten years. In fact, I would argue that we’ve actually played a lot of things down the middle for the last year, two years, than we did prior. I understand Facebook dumped a lot of accounts that were using the hashtag “stop the steal.” We did not. We never got into the presidential election at all, other than discussion of the Biden agenda.
And of course, this comes on the heels of other bans, like Parler getting shut down at the host level, ARCOM getting the boot from Godaddy (again at the host level), Twitter silencing 10s of thousands of accounts from people they didn't agree with, and Facebook stopping gun accessory companies from advertising on their platform.
Finally, there is also the recent news about a source I won't name making an attempt at silencing popular gun YouTube channels. To my knowledge this hasn't happened yet, but Colion Noir spoke about it on his channel, here:
It seems like as of right now, we are in the midst of a new kind of gun control. This gun control seems to be happening more at the tech companies than it is by anti-gun politicians.
This makes me question, who is in charge here, actually?
While that remains to be seen, there is one thing I can say with absolute certainty: Buckle up gun folk, it's about to get bumpy.
What's next for the gun industry? Leave your thoughts on this in the comments below. But, be nice. Because, ya know, we don't want to get banned.
Good article. We are definitely in for a ride.
Stay Safe and Train Often
I don’t need Facebook so I don’t use it (or let it use me). It’s time for a new social venue that is not part of the liberal anti-2A movement. Who has the money to get it off the ground?
Try MeWe, unless Fakebook bought that, too
In the next few years, gun owners are going to have to make a serious choice. Do I give up my 2a rights? or, do I adhere to the Supreme law of the land? refuse to comply with unconstitutional laws, and risk becoming a felon.
FB AND TWITTER BANNED ME AFTER MAKING PRO-GUN COMMENTS DURING THE OSOMA OBAMA REIGN OF TYRANNY!
I believe that this level.of subject mayter censorship wi only worsen, as tge new Administration is philosophically supportive of that behavior.
Hope some right-thinking person can and will start their own internet system. #2. If there is a local gun club in your neighborhood, sign up if they have a system to secure your weapons.
As a cyber security expert and EDC I think FB is the devil on so many different levels.
There is a simple answer. Stop using social media platforms. We survived for literally generations without them and can survive again. If 50% of the country or users walk away from them, their revenue will tank, their shareholders will revolt, and management and/or ownership will change. Vote with your feet, not your voice. Then can’t cancel what you control.
There are at least three problems with that:
1) WE need social media platforms to get the word out to OUR people as to what is happening and to organize. Social media is the method by which most people under 30 get their information. WE also need access to be able counter their narrative.
2) At one time a company didn’t want to get involved in politics or controversial matters because it was likely to upset at least some of their customers and thus lose them customers. Now there are people running these companies who are more concerned about pushing their ideology and don’t care about the money. OR, they are more worried about offending the Left than they are about offending the right.
3) They think that even if we leave temporarily, we will come back. Look at NFL football. They took a huge hit in viewers. But they didn’t clamp down on their players.
Soooooo sports fans this apparently is coordinated inauthentic behavior
https://about.fb.com/news/2018/12/inside-feed-coordinated-inauthentic-behavior/
Have a barf bag ready.
I particularly liked the part on their “expert investigators”
Where’s that bag…….
Remember grammar school where some Ahole would do something dumb that stopped the whole class from doing something? Well that’s the problem here. You let Aholes become associated with yourselves and now they’ve spoiled it for everyone. YOU did not denounce the rabid, racist and/or crazy Aholes when you had the chance. So you allowed them to put their taint on your cause. When someone does that to me I make sure EVERYBODY knows they’re not with me.
On a lesser scale, NO CAN SPELL Alan and RACIST LIVING IN THE PAST John T Fox don’t help. You cannot successfully advocate for something you don’t understand. The US Supreme Court is the FINAL arbiter of the constitution. So not really sure who “THEY” is. “THEY” may want to take guns away from “normal” people but only SCOTUS can. “THEY” can make it a royal pain, but that’s it. Focus on the real. Unless you’re just trying to make money. Then focus on the untrue.
As far as first amendment goes, It does not refer to private forums. I can talk crap in a bar or someone’s home, but I may get thrown out. I’ve thrown people out of my house for saying stuff I didn’t like. Cops never showed up. I agree with the people here who said, “start your own site.” Then you can say what you want. Otherwise, don’t complain because someone won’t let YOU do what YOU want to do in THEIR house. THEIR house; THEIR rules.
Dave,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I am relatively new to the 2A community. I refer to myself as “pandemic woke” because the pandemic motivated me to do something I have considered doing for years, but never had a real motivation to do.
I have observed radical points of view in the 2A community that can easily be used as the stereotype for 2A advocates. I have voiced my opinion on this many times. From my “novice” perspective, and to your point, there are many in the community that do little to curtail the “extreme” end of the spectrum.
It is this fringe element that creates the toxic perception that some folks have about 2A. This is just my two cents.
Thanks for indulging.
Check out GoWild.com. Lot of good people for hunting, fishing, trapping, shooting, etc. Good, down to earth people run it. I’ve been on about a year.
Keep your powder dry and know that we can not live under a regime as oppressive and insane/disjointed from reality as this …
Well I know we are in for a crazy and bumpy ride for the next 4 years at least, and I don’t mean in a good way. I got a 30 day ban from Facebook for telling a family member where he could buy ammo online. They hate us gun owning/loving Americans with a passion.
It mystifying to me why gun banning is so popular. My weapons are for hunting, target shooting and self defense. They have never done anything to anyone.
It is the person wielding the weapon that makes the difference. I have seen numerous accounts from countries with bans in place where clubs, knives and vehicles are most prevalent in mass attacks. As far as I can see banning firearms only inhibits good people from stopping attacks.
Hope Y’all don’t mind. I have plenty of friends that are 2nd amendment supporters and gun enthusiasts that I will share this with. Soooo, I’ll be posting it on my mewe account, aaannd Maybe on facecrook as well.
The tipping point is upon us, tough choices and even tougher actions will be necessary to correct the wrongs the corrupt courts are unable to do… they are cutting us off from each other (divide and conquer) they control the info, we will never know when the grab starts or where, the time to stand is now the time to act is upon us and no quarter given. We the people are the last chance to reinstate the constitution and hold those accountable who have broken their oaths to protect it.