40 S&W: Is It Dead?

After speaking to many local gun store owners over the course of the last year, they all seemed to share a similar sentiment: The once popular 40 S&W self-defense cartridge is dead.

In fact, one of the gun shops I frequent doesn't even stock guns chambered in forty, simply because they just sit in the case.

Nobody buys them.

.40 S&W History:

.40 S&W

Baby Desert Eagle III in .40 S&W.

To get a solid handle on why this is happening, we must first get a firm understanding of firearms history, as it relates to how law enforcement chooses a duty gun. The .40 Cal was introduced way back when the FBI deemed the 9mm unworthy, ballistically, to get the job done in a shootout. To combat the 9X19's deficiencies, they decided to move to a bigger, more powerful cartridge: 10mm.

The 10 was superior to the nine in almost every way, delivering magnum ballistics with the ability to carry more cartridges than your standard 6-shot .357 magnum revolver.

It was a match made in heaven … Or so they thought. The main issue with the 10mm, is that police and FBI were unable to handle the associated recoil of this powerhouse cartridge, forcing them to find another solution. This is where the .40S&W came into play.

The forty-cal was much easier for on-duty police to handle than the 10mm was, allowing those who shot it the capability of qualifying with their duty guns. After all, a police officer who cannot shoot a gun is ineffective at his/her job.

So, for the last few decades, it reigned supreme in the eyes of the FBI and law enforcement personnel across the land. And, what usually happens, is whatever is good for the badge, is good for the badge-less (like us civilians).

That is an important point to remember going forward, because what LEOs use on the job plays a big part in the story.

Back to 9mm:

9mm ammo

Sig Sauer Ammo

After several years of using the .40 S&W self-defense cartridge and getting the job done with it, the FBI made the controversial move to change back to the once under-powered 9mm parabellum round, just over a year ago.

Citing reasons such as increased capacity, improved terminal ballistics, and the ability to land multiple shots on target in quicker fashion, the FBI awarded a contract to Glock for striker-fired pistols, chambered in 9X19. This decision dealt a severe blow to the already diminished .40S&W market.

The FBI no longer saw it as a viable option for their agents, and civilians usually follow suit because we know the feds have ballistic guidelines to help them choose the right cartridge for their guns. The bottom line is that 9mm ballistics had improved greatly, from what they used to be.

Improved Ballistics Of 9mm Parabellum:

There is a notion I'd like for you to dismiss right now, and that is the idea of this thing called “knock-down power.” There is no such thing as knock-down power unless you make a head shot or destroy the beating heart of your attacker. And, even then, life may not be lost right away. Listen to what I'm about to say next very carefully –

Knockdown power is nothing more than a myth.

If the Hollywood directors could have it their way, they'd have you believing that each time someone is hit with a bullet, they'd fly back 15 feet. There's just no such thing, and to make matters even more interesting, there really is no such thing as a one-shot kill with a handgun. Can it happen? Sure. But is it the norm? No, not really.

Back to the point …

9mm produces a smaller hole than does the .40. It's not possible to argue with science in this regard. .40 S&W is essentially 10mm in diameter while a 9mm bullet, is well, you know–nine. It doesn't make sense for us to think that a smaller projectile can perform as well as a bigger one does, in many cases.

The thinking, is that while one clearly cannot perform as well as the other, the lesser of the two performs good enough to get the job done. Furthermore, when you take into account that people shooting 9mm are more accurate with the ability to land more shots on target, the argument is improved. In other words, two smaller, deeply penetrating holes are better than one.

How have the nine's ballistics improved? Well, that'll be a topic for another day, and one that we've got coming to you. Suffice it to say that according to the FBI, 9mm JHP gets the job done.

Is .40 S&W Dead?

40 S&W

American Eagle Ammo.

The short answer to this, would be “no, it's not dead.” In fact, it's no more dead than 10mm is. The .40 caliber will always have a following, and there will be some who will always believe it is the best option, no matter what the FBI or anyone else says. The most important thing, is that we all carry what we can handle in a defensive situation.

However, it is in decline as a commercially used self-defense cartridge. Why is this so? Well, for starters, cost effectiveness has a big role to play. There is a direct correlation between cost per round and the amount of live-fire training a person does.

In other words, if you can't afford to shoot your gun, it won't get shot. And, the result of that, is being less effective in your self-defense pursuits. Period.

If you take two boxes of ammo from the same manufacturer, one in 9mm and the other in .40 S&W, the former will be cheaper 9 out of 10 times. That's just the way it is.

On the other hand, though, you have the people who don't care about cost simply because they believe it does a better job. And that is the main reason why the .40S&W will never actually die.


What's next? Well, only time will tell. However, I feel confident in saying that, even in decline, the .40 S&W self-defense cartridge is NOT completely dead, no matter what you may have heard others say in the past. It's alive, even if only in some shooting circles, and it's not going anywhere, anytime soon.

What I want to know, is what you've got strapped to your hip, in your concealed carry holster, right at this very moment. What caliber do you trust your life with? Let us know in the comments.



About Joshua Gillem

Josh is a lifelong practitioner and student of the gun. He grew up shooting/hunting with his dad, and was given his first gun, a 12 gauge shotgun, when just a small boy. After high school, he joined the Marines where his love for firearms blossomed as he qualified with an M16A2, an M9, and a 240G. Josh has been writing about firearms and tactics for several years, owns the blog Gunners Den, is a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment, and believes that each individual person has the right to self-defense by any means necessary. Currently residing in gun-friendly NC, he carries a concealed gun on a daily basis, even in his own house.


  1. Raul Sanchez on March 29, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    9mm S&W, M&P shield with 2 extra mags as well loaded with Sig Sauer hollow point rounds!

    • Bayou Castine on April 4, 2017 at 3:06 pm

      Daily CC: Desert Eagle 1911C 45apc. + one spare magazine. Why? Korean “Conflict” [’52/’53]’experience with the Colt 1911, 24 years as a CCW instructor, Louisiana. Why Desert Eagle? It is designed for use in and around Israel. If it is good enough in that environment and good enough for the Israel Defense Forces It is good enough for me.

      Plus, I like the “1911” 45 frame.

    • Ed Moser on April 4, 2017 at 4:49 pm

      I was still copping when the FBI decided to go the the 40 S&W. It all started when 8 FBI agents got in a shoot out with bank robbers they were tailing on 4/11/86. 2 FBI agents died and 5 were wounded. Agents were armed with an 870, 3 9mms and 4 38/357 revolvers. Bad guys were armed with Ruger mini-14s. After action report said FBI agent obtained several lethal hits on the bad guys which were not effective in immediate incapacitation, they each bled out from multiple hits and died. FBI conducted ballistic test and concluded the 9mm and 38 were both not up to the task of stopping determined criminals quickly enough (under penetration) and the 40 S&W was born. I can tell other stories were the 9mm didn’t do its job when used by police. The 9mm was very pitiful in the 80s and 90s. I do think the 9mm has done a great job in improving the cartridge. I like the new 124gr Federal HST cartridge which is on the market now. I still carry a 40 S&W for my CCW but I’ve been testing a CZ compact and it may just win out. The 40 S&W is still a good cartridge. I notice very little difference in shooting either the 9mm or the 40, I shoot more 9mm because the ammo is so much more affordable. I was in charge of the department’s firearms training during this time and followed this case and went to training on it.

      • Tony Beruff on November 23, 2017 at 11:47 am

        That happened down the street from me in Miami.

      • Drew on April 7, 2019 at 4:13 pm

        Corbon has been making a 1300 ft/sec 115 9mm+P before 86 question is do you want 400 ft-lb of energy or do you want over 500 ft-lb of energy. If you want the latter you need to go with 40 SW

      • S j on April 9, 2019 at 2:38 am

        Pretty sure it was the 10 that replaced the 9 originally.
        The 40 was born from “gender norming”
        Taking a very effective caliber, the 10mm, and neutering it to fit smaller, weaker, female agents.
        Since we dare not deviate from standardization, especially when it may empower an imaginary “patriarchy” by “marginalizing” female agents by giving them a ladies gun, while the male agents actually get a powerhouse, everyone gets the girl gun. No feeling hurt.
        The introduction of a new caliber, which is basically redundant.
        Because it’s performance is identical with the 9, but with fewer rounds.
        The result of red tape, bureaucrats, and political correctness run amok, is what spawned the 40.
        One could have just as well created a caliber called the 9.01×19 with the same result.
        Take the 10
        Unless you need the 9 for a super compact carry.
        If your going to go “Short & Weak” at least get the extra few rounds.

      • John E. Burns on October 26, 2023 at 6:57 pm

        Ed Sir, my name is John Burns here in Branson, Mo. I am a Class lll-FFL guy Sir. I Carry a Variety of Guns & Calibers. My main Weapon is a Sprfld. XD-45ACP. Hi-Cap. 15rds. have 5 mags. Fed.Hydro-Shok.175gr. at 1250fps. Very Effictive! I also Have.38spc. , .357mags., 9mm’s, 10mm’s, 45auto,45colt, 44mag. 454 Casual, etc. I like & Practice with them All. 380auto also. 40 cal. Is my Choice rate Now. Am Very Impressed with this Round. 165gr. at 1325fps. Yields rate at 600ft.lbs. of Energy. About the Best Balistics l Can Shoot Sir. Hornady-FBI loads are also a Great load for Defense! So l am like Mr.Ayob at Wilson Combat, Carry a Gun to Stop the Threat!!!

    • Lister on April 4, 2017 at 7:09 pm

      Depending on how deep of concealment necessary and or clothes choice…it’s between a .40 Shield or a .45 Springfield Armory 1911 Loaded. I also have a 5″ M&P 9mm Pro Series but it is a tickle long and I still haven’t got around to shopping for IWB holster for it. I do have a Bladetech OWB rig for it. 1911 usually rides in a OWB Spetzgear rig and the .40 Shield in a IWB Crossbreed Mini Tuck.

      • Mitchell Haggard on April 5, 2017 at 1:43 am

        What’s your point?

        • Bob on July 20, 2017 at 12:28 am

          The author of the article concluded by asking its readers what we carry. – That’s the point.

        • Tony Lee on January 22, 2018 at 7:00 pm

          9 mm Springfield mod 2

          • Heath on January 26, 2019 at 10:53 pm

            Same. Springfield Mod 2, 9mm, 4” service pistol. Carried in an alien gear, IWB holster. And I absolutely love this gun.

          • Mark on April 7, 2019 at 3:50 pm

            Either a Ruger LCP 380 or a M&P sheald40 Cal.

        • A. Jay on August 12, 2018 at 3:04 pm

          Oy… You had to make the question “right at this moment” … When I’m at the mall with my daughter (reading this while waiting on the ‘Dad Bench’) having run out in shorts and a t-shirt.
          OK. You caught :
          NAA 22-mag pocket revolver in a pocket holster.

          (typ. EDC is a S&W J-frame… Either 38 special[+P] airweight… or snubbie stainless steel .357 magnum)

      • Ethan Mac on July 7, 2020 at 3:03 pm

        .40 s&w m&p 2.0!!!!!
        the .40 s&w truly is the ideal cartridge caliber! just buy a handgun built for it not a scaled up 9mm and the m&p 2.0 is way nicer and cheaper than the overpriced block glock, i love the grip texture, feel and angle of the m&p 2.0, plus it is a way nicer looking handgun!
        .40 s&w over 9mm all day everday!
        i am Canadian so i don’t have my “recognized rights” especially firearm and defense rights, own or especially carry! i have “given privileges”. but if i could carry my handguns this is what i would carry!

    • Chris on April 5, 2017 at 6:42 am

      80% of the time I have an H&K P2000 or H&K P2000sk in .40 as my EDC. The rest of the time I have an H&K P30sk in 9mm because it feels so good in hand or my H&K45c. The difference in recoil with a .40 and 9mm with a compact and sub compact gun is minimal. Now go to a pocket like a Kahr PM9 and it is huge. As a side note I started with the .40 S&W because I needed it to make major in USPSA and since I was going to reload .40 (easier than 9mm), shoot it in competition, and practice with it so much I might as well carry it. Plus it is a nice compromise in capacity between 9mm and .45ACP.

    • bob on September 18, 2017 at 11:08 pm

      Glock 27 40 Cal Lone Wolf 9mm barrel to cut cost on range shooting.. 40 Cal for me

    • Chad on February 14, 2018 at 11:17 am

      Glock 29 in 10mm. Not sure why this isn’t more folks go to, as you can shoot 40 s&w, 357 sig and many other cartridges with this platform.

      Recoil is NOTHING, so don’t be intimidated. You can get 10mm ammo that’s basically 40 s&w +p.

      I think more folks will migrate to 10mm once they try it, and understand the flexibility of range you can use with this cartridge.

    • Tommy MacDonald on October 31, 2019 at 10:50 pm

      I agree the .40 cal. WILL always be
      around, and may have a resurgence some day. The reality is all the chatter has lowered the value of guns in .40 cal. I learned this when selling a .40 cal sub 2000. I so disliked the sights on it and smashing my face into the tube that I just took the loss. The round is just as good as most, and I think the whole market over reacted about it. Had that sub 2000 had decent sights I would still have it, the caliber was not that important to me. The lesson I learned was not to buy rifles online, pistols yes carbines no. My carry is a Ruger Security Compact 9mm with a Promag 15 rd extended mag.. Sometimes I carry a Ruger LCP gen 1 DA which I dearly love.
      For home, a Ruger P95, it,s overbuilt and is an awesome old school firearm. I never go into a no ie theater w/o a carry gun, and I always show my wife the exits and what to do should an active shooter situation happen. I hope the .40 makes a come back, it deserves better.

    • Chuck Asher on January 5, 2020 at 10:45 pm

      I carry a HK vp40 every day
      . I love it. it is the easiest shooting .40 that I have ever shot

  2. Steven on March 31, 2017 at 2:28 pm

    People who let what the FBI says about what is better good for you . I will carry as long as I can what is comfortable for me . I like my Glock and Sig Sauer .45cals . I also have a 9mm and .40 cal . Knock down power is only as good s shot placement. So I practice with them all as much as I can . The rounds out in the market now caliber to me does not matter .

  3. Erik on March 31, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    I have 3 40’s and a foot locker of once fired brass and I hoard bullets like a spaz. The 40 has worked well for many applications. I won’t quit using it anytime soon.

  4. Asian Guy on March 31, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    I just CC a 40 in a backpack. When I can afford to, I will get a 380 LCP 2 or P238.

  5. Butch Conard on March 31, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    Glock 26 or Glock 19. Same gun, different mags.
    Easy to put 15 in a 2×2 at 30ft. (Standing still).

  6. Robbie on March 31, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    New S&W 45.shield with extra mag.

  7. Doug on March 31, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    I have a .40 S&W in the SUV and 2 9mm in the house. One by the bed and one by my recliner. Both under lock and key. I took my CCW with the .40cal. I like it a lot . The recoil for me is not an issue.

  8. Adman on March 31, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    I still like .40. I own all the service calibers but prefer .40. I shoot it well and it’s well- suited to the SIG P229.

    I even bought two used .40s after the FBI decision, because government decisions often have little to do with logic and much to do with politics. They were also cost effective, allowing the purchase of a case of ammo to go with them.

    • David on April 4, 2017 at 2:00 pm

      Like you, I find the P229 in .40 is a very nice shooting pistol, plus it has the added versatility of three caliber potential. A drop-in factory barrel in .357 SIG, and their .22lr Conversion Unit allows very inexpensive practice with the same feel and trigger pull.

      The likelihood any of us regular “civilians” (cops are civilians too) getting into a major gun battle requiring dozens of rounds is pretty slim unless you live in a jurisdiction with ridiculous murder rates and horrible gun control (L.A., Chicago, D.C., I’m speaking of you). I have confidence in both .40 and .45 for personal self defense and will continue to. I’m not a rangemaster or someone responsible for agency purchases, don’t shoot several thousand rounds per year, so the additional cost of the larger rounds is a relative trifling to me. What I do prefer is the slight additional penetrative and expansion qualities of the two rounds that start bigger and heavier to begin with, and I am not dissuaded by the slight additional recoil either.

      • Todd on April 4, 2017 at 2:35 pm

        I still believe too many people discount the issue of mass on impact. Penetration is one thing but punch matters too. You can jab someone in the jaw with a stick the size of your finger and it will do significant tissue damage and spin the person around writhing in pain. But a clenched fist in the same spot with the same force will more likely put em down, and maybe out. I like the .40 for the “outdated” reasoning that is does provide the best of both 9mm and .45 worlds. Call me obsolete…

        • TheProfessor on April 4, 2017 at 4:24 pm

          Todd, if you want the real truth of power in a caliber google up “Taylor Knock down Formula” it takes in the bullet diameter as well as weight. it has been proven time and again in the hunting arena where power factor is proven on living flesh, which the naysayers who have never killed a living thing, deny the reality of. And virtually ALL the bullet advances have come from. Many proclaim the advances com from the military, but the fact is world wide, military rounds are all full metal jacket. and there havent been any advances there.

          • R.W. on April 4, 2017 at 6:27 pm

            True story. In fact I went to Handloads.com to enter some data from Ballistics-By-The-Inch and get some results.

            Cor-Bon DPX 115 gr. 9mm ammo out of a full size 5″ barreled pistol clocks 1315 fps, produces 441 fpe, has a momentum of 21, and rates a Taylor KO of 7.

            Cor-Bon DPX 140 gr. .40 S&W ammo out of a compact 3″ barreled pistol clocks 1190 fps, 440 fpe, has a momentum of 23, and rates a Taylor KO of 9.

            The performance out of a compact .40 exceeds that of even a full-size 9mm; and that’s why I cc the .40.

    • Lightning on June 5, 2018 at 7:48 pm

      The 229 was designed around the .40.

  9. Kyler D on March 31, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    9mm CZ P07. Reliable, accurate, affordable. ?

  10. Jeffrey on March 31, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    I remember reading an article 20 some years ago where the FBI said they were changing to the .40 from the 9mm. 6 years ago I bought my SR40. I trust my life with this gun. This is what I will continue to carry.
    Too each there own. I would say go to a range that let’s you shoot different guns they carry. Try a Sr40 compared to a 9mm. If you can’t handle it and your a smaller guy who prefers a 9mm. Than go with that. You maybe surprised you can comfortably handle the recoil.
    My Best to every one. Stay safe!!

    • TheProfessor on April 4, 2017 at 4:34 pm

      Jeffery, three words regarding the FBI: “Politics Politics Politics.” A .40 doesnt cost any more than the same firearm in 9mm, Obama already had every department of the government purchase enough ammo in virtually EVERY caliber to carry them into the middle of the century, and they do not shoot the weapons enough to wear them out. Therefore there is no excuse for the change other than politics. The fact is every agent NEEDS to be trained to adle whatever firearm they are issued. and the 10mm that brought about the change has less recoil than the 4 inch model 27 357 magnum they used to carry, so once again. Politics!

      • Glenn on April 5, 2017 at 5:39 am

        Absolutely true, Professor! In fact, politics (including the current “political correctness”) are part of EVERY government acquisition selection process. My wife carries a smaller caliber than I do: our sizes and natural strength determine the caliber each of us is more comfortable and accurate with while trying to maximize downrange foot-pounds. But in current politics, the caliber must be reduced to the lowest common strength denominator on the force, rather than offering maximum effectiveness to agents of differing size and strength: the natural differences in size and strength of men and women are masked at all costs. The lives of agents and officers of are of little concern to politicians, but the lives of my wife and myself are of paramount concern to me. I will, therefore, continue to carry the .40.

  11. John Pierce on March 31, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    Don’t like 9’s love 357 Sig or the old slow poke 45 acp.

    • Jim Lovelady on April 4, 2017 at 2:32 pm

      Love the 357 Sig round. I carry, and load for, a Glock 22 with a Wolf 357 barrel inserted. Jim

  12. Jonathan on March 31, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    Shield 9 for EDC and Glock 20/10mm for home defense (night stand gun).

  13. Art Outlaw on March 31, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    I own two Springfield XD’s. One Mod2 sub compact and the XDM competition, both in .40 S&W. It is my caliber of choice. My everyday carry is the Mod2. Not an issue with the recoil.

  14. Todd on April 1, 2017 at 12:43 am

    Kahr .40 S&W

    • Leo on October 14, 2017 at 10:31 pm

      Hey man I love those kahr pistols.

  15. Cybershot on April 1, 2017 at 4:05 am

    40 is very much alive. I like 9mm, but not for life and death situation. 40 is proven when it comes to barrier penetration. Even over the 45. I’d choose .357sig or 10mm before I’d carry 9mm.

    • Cybershot 2 on August 21, 2023 at 7:36 pm

      Not any more.

  16. Chy-zak on April 1, 2017 at 6:28 am

    Knock down might not be a big difference between 9 and 40, but there is between 9 and 357 Sig. That is one reason I chose to carry a Sig p320 compact chambered in 357 Sig, but also have a 40 barrel for it that I can swap out in a matter of seconds for more cost effective practice. 600+ ft pounds of energy will stop a man in his tracks if hit on center mass.

  17. Randal on April 1, 2017 at 7:42 am

    I will stick with my .40. Both my everyday carry and my home defense firearms are cha!here’s in it.

  18. Mike M on April 1, 2017 at 9:13 am

    I only shoot 40 cal. S&W M&P and Springfield. Acurate at 25 yards.
    If I need something bigger, that’s what my long guns are for.

  19. J. Morse on April 1, 2017 at 10:03 am

    First and foremost I am a retired LEO with much training experience. That being said, the most common reason for law enforcement to go to 9mms is cost; 9mms is much less expensive to train with and mediocre students are performing better (?) with it.

    But, what caliber do operators, LEO and paramilitary alike, carry? Answer is .45 and in many cases .40/10mms. Why would that be? Self evident.

  20. Drew G. on April 1, 2017 at 10:24 am

    Sig P229 and Springfield EMP, both 40 caliber also Beretta PX4 in 40 Cal. Never had a problem with 40 caliber and I like the stopping power…at 0-25 yards I’d take it any day of the week over a 9MM. Never been a fan of the 9MM. If I need something more, well then I have several rifles such as my Henry 44 magnum or my AR. THEY WILL DO THE JOB. If I really want to reach out and touch some one then my 270 or 308 will be up for the job…

  21. Rick G. on April 1, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    I own 380, 38s,9mm,40cal.,45cal, and I carry everyday my 40 but depending on how I am dressed then I go to my 380 bodyguard

  22. AJ on April 4, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    Glock .45 next to the bed; S&W 9mm CC.

  23. Tim W. on April 4, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    Nothing has changed. The FBI and large Police Departments have to accommodate a wide range of shooters and training costs are an issue. Not so for individuals. Shoot the most effective caliber that you can control. I carry a G23(.40 S&W). My department switched back to 9mm.

  24. Jack D. on April 4, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    .40 Taurus P140 at my back IWB. .40 KelTec Sub2000 for longer range. JHP rounds do the job in either case!

  25. Rowdy Don on April 4, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    .40 Bersa – love it!

  26. Tom on April 4, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    I carry an LCP, Micro 9 or shield 40 but I still like a 38spl revolver on occasion.

  27. John W Bletsch on April 4, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    I prefer the 9mm due to more rounds on board and cost of ammo. My main issue with the 40 S&W is the short barrel muzzle blast blurring my vision. On the range I wear wrap around shooting glasses that minimize the issue. Not being able to clearly see my sights and target is enough for me to avoid that cartridge. I do not have that issue with any of the loadings in 9mm I shoot. Any info I read tells me that in a fire fight rounds on target is what counts no matter the caliber.

  28. Anthony McKenzie on April 4, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    I either carry a Glock 29 in 10mm or one of my Kimbers in 45ACP once in a while I carry 2 at the same time and it’s my Glock 29 and my kimber Solo thats a 9mm. Most of the time it’s a 10 mm with a double stack magazine. I own several different Guns but it all comes down to personal preferences when it comes to what people prefer to carry. Everyone have a great day and stay safe.

  29. Todd N. on April 4, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    G22C – G23C – G26 – & I spread the wealth on them – just depends on where I’m travelling too, what areas I’m visiting for the day. I had to carry 9mm in the Coast Guard – hated it. When I started with Local LE I started carrying the .40 and I still do today…

  30. Gilbert Patton on April 4, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    Glock 19. Best CC I’ve ever carried. Also have Glocks 22, 27. S&W .357 revolver. Love ’em all. Oh, also have 2 derringers. 1 in 9mm and 1 in .2.2

  31. Brent on April 4, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    On my hip now.. S&W M&P 40c. 10 rnds per mag. Dead accurate at 25ft 180gn golden saber. I carried a 9mm on duty for 25 years, but prefer the .40.

  32. Pat on April 4, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    You can’take beat a .45 if you can handle the r3coil, but for CC I prefer the ,9mm. Easy to handle and much less recoil.

  33. Rocky on April 4, 2017 at 1:50 pm

    I have carried a .40 for 20 years. I trust it and can shoot just fine on a target with grouping. It will get the job done in any situation I will be in that a 9mm could.

  34. GARY WILLIAMS on April 4, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    I carry a Smith & Wesson M&P .40 caliber on my hip.

  35. Mike on April 4, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    I love hand guns, have 11 autos from 380 to 45.wheel guns 22, 38,357,45colt, 44mag. Love them all. Daily carry is usually 9-19 glock, council’s well. Out on the trail or on a fishing trip will find me with one of my 1911s. I reload so can afford to take 3 or 4 different guns out each time I go to range, usually 2,3 times a month. God bless you all, stay safe.

  36. Mike Cintron on April 4, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Beretta 92fs just right.

  37. Jack Gordon on April 4, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    Most of the debate is hogwash that helps fill the pages of gun mags. Anything in the 9mm range (I include .38 wadcutters) is fine. If you want to spend more money, opt for something bigger than the old Luger 9; if you want to be protected at a reasonable price, opt for the 9 or a .38, both with many fine carry weapons chambered for them. The only element worth considering is whether you WILL carry or leave the thing at home. That depends totally on ease of carry. The 9s and .38s are notoriously easy to slip in a jacket pocket, light enough not to print much or tire an owner’s shoulder or hip. That cinches the argument for me.

  38. Jay Alexander on April 4, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    40 SW M&P compact for CC and 40 SW M&P standard in house and truck. Our range is 35 ft and my wife at 5’1″ and slender can do 4″ groups consistantly… Grand kids use Ruger Blackhawks in 22 mag when they visit.

  39. Don in Marietta on April 4, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    I love my Glock 47 and 23. In fact, if I had to have only 1 handgun for the rest of my life, it would be my Glock 23c. Great gun! Lots of rounds (13). The stopping power of a 40. The vented barrel has the snap of a 9mm.

  40. Marvin on April 4, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    Right now? Springfield Xds 3.3 in 45 acp. I love the 45’s! But sometimes depending on how I’m dressed I have the Ruger LCP II with me. And always an extra mag or two! But then again, as a little extra, when archery hunting the Ruger SP101 357 comes along.

    • Joshua on April 4, 2017 at 2:09 pm

      May I ask how you like the LCP II?

      • Marvin on April 4, 2017 at 2:30 pm

        Love It! The new trigger is by far better than the original. Overall it’s a real nice pocket gun and quite accurate too!

  41. Ken Wheeler on April 4, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    You asked: I have three .40 S&W pistols. One of them is on my hip as I type this. One of them will be carried for as long as I can see in the future.

  42. Ron on April 4, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    XDs 45 cc. XD compact 45 in the nightstand. 12ga racked inside the closet above the door. I’m old the military trained me on .45s

  43. Randy Hawkins on April 4, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    9mm JHP. using Springfield XD9

    • Bob 1911 on April 7, 2019 at 9:27 pm

      I carry my S&W 45 shield, I use Underwood ammo, ammo has a
      lot to do with it.

  44. Gregory Seybold on April 4, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    I live in the deep south state of Georgia where heat and humidity are the norm 9 months out of the year. Its only early April, already hot here and only going to get worse so shorts and knit shirts are my daily wear. So my most carried pistol is a Kahr PM40 in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster in my right side pocket and spare 6 round magazine in a Snag Mag clipped to my left pocket. I firmly believe in carrying the largest caliber possible based on the pistol size, so I will not carry a 9mm in a frame that will carry .40S&W, the same as not carrying any smaller caliber in a 1911 .45ACP frame pistol. Don’t misunderstand me, I do not dislike the 9mm cartridge, in fact I own two S&W 9mm pistols. However facts are facts and size does indeed matter!

  45. James Friedman on April 4, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    Beretta 96FS in .40 S&W

  46. Tim on April 4, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    I carry an HK VP9, and I love it.

  47. BradB on April 4, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    For years I turned up my nose at the 1911. Mostly because my WWII/Korea combat vet Dad hated semi-autos. He always preferred a revolver for reliability. When I made the decision to go semi-auto, after much research I went Glock in .40. I own five Glocks now, various models of 9mm and .40 and have given three to my boys as well. A few years ago I picked up a Springfield Range Officer 1911 in .45. It’s a dream to shoot. I saved my pennies and found a deal on a US GI model Rock Island, and that’s what I mostly carry now. Small sights and all. It is such a natural point shooter that I do better with it than anything else I own. (No time to get the bifocals lined up in a gunfight – hope I never have to try!) The penny jar has “Kimber” written on it now.

    So, long story over with:
    1911 .45 ACP in shoulder rig with Glock 43 9mm in belly band. 3 spare mags each.
    Glock 23 (.40) with Viridian ECR light/laser in the bedside safe.
    And sometimes I’m just in a .357 mood. Ruger GP100, 4 inch. I don’t much carry it, but it may be holstered and hiding in my toolbox as I work in the garage or tucked into the recliner cushion as I watch TV.

    I am partial to Hornady Critical Defense or Federal HST ammo. I can’t afford to be an expert on everything that’s out there.

  48. bodog on April 4, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    Glock 30 (.45 ) laser equipped

  49. Ric Parks on April 4, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    My main semi-auto for many years now has been the S&W 4006. It used to be the issue sidearm of the CA Highway Patrol, which is why I checked it out in the first place. I had it duty package customized and it’s one sweet puppy. I’ve owned, bought and sold many sidearm over the years in many different calibers but the .40 caliber is still my first choice. Luckily, here in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave we still have many choices of sidearms and calibers to choose from. And may it forever be that way – and God Bless America! I’m an Army veteran and Air Force retiree.

  50. Robert P Jorgensen on April 4, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    I got a LCP 9mm and a S&W Body Guard 38 special. Any gun is only as good as the shooter. Fads come and go, just look at the military.

  51. James on April 4, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    I got 2 9mm and 1 40call. I shoot better with the 40 than the 9’s. I get less recoil from the 40 and my groupings are 1 1/2 inch at 20 and 25 yards. Love my 40 and my 380 has more kick than all of them.

  52. Jon on April 4, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    Thanks for letting me know that the 9mm has improved ballistics now days! I will remember that when I am hiking out in the woods and spot a cougar stalking me, and I reach for my…oh wait…I pack a 40 out in the woods. Those big 180 grain XTP’s or hard cast just evoke more confidence than any 115 gr 9mm round.

  53. Mike DeFord on April 4, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    I currently have a S&W M&P 9c strapped to my his. I very much enjoy shooting this gun and would prefer to carry my full sized M&P but that isn’t practical in the conceal carry realm.

  54. Mike French on April 4, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    My sons’ department issues M&P .45’s, Mine issues .40 Glocks, my Chief allows me to
    carry my M&P in .40, with dep’t ammo. We both carry our own 9mm Shields when out of uniform. My son doesn’t like the “punch” of my 40, and prefers the “push” of his 45.

  55. Fred on April 4, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    I own a Ruger SR22 a Ruger Blackhawk 357 a Ruger SR9 and a Sig 229 in 40 cal.
    When I hear a bump in the night I reach for the Sig.

  56. Rod on April 4, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    I carry a Glock 27.40 only because the Glock 30 .45 was too large and uncomfortable for a IWB holster which I prefer. To me bigger is better, I am definitely not sold on 9mm.

  57. Andy on April 4, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    Well,…….probably a large percent (just my guess) of FBI agents are urban folks who have never touched a gun before joining and will sit behind a desk chasing cyber crime for their 20 years in the FBI. They need a low recoil gun they can manage to qualify with. Sure the 9MM is a good round and cheaper, but I think the real reason is ability to qualify. The agents in the field might be better off with the caliber of their individual choosing. I’ve used my .40 since 2003 as a LEO and will stick with it.

  58. SZ939 on April 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    One question I have never seen answered reliably about the .40 cartridge is WHY is it only available in flat nose (even .40 hollow points are flat nosed compared to say a .45)?

  59. Rudy on April 4, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Tanfoglio P carry .45 in an under tech t shirt or a SCCY 9MM. Both of these run flawless for me after sweaty daily underarm carry. S&W body guard in the pocket or urban carry holster. Kel Tec P3AT on the ankle sometimes a Bersa Thunder plus iwb, never know when you’ll need 16 rounds of .380. Of course the 60 rounds of the PMR30 and extra mag are light to carry even though.22 magnum is a questionable defensive round. The list goes on, bottom line always carry legally with practice and reliability.

  60. 2War Abn Vet on April 4, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    I’m willing to take all those obsolete useless old .40s off your hands. Feel free to send them to me; I’ll even pay postage.

  61. Frank on April 4, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    I carry a px4 storm 40 cal I like it a lot had a sw 9 mm shield got rid of it my better half carries a Glock 9 mm and she loves it we also have a 380 ruger as far ammunition yea the 9 mm are cheaper but who cares

  62. Victor on April 4, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    I have a S&W .40 semi-auto that I purchased about 15 years ago. It was a PD trade-in; came with two 15 RND mags. I also bought a case of .40 cal. ammo @ $10/ box of 50. I keep the .40 safely at home for defense. I like the fact that it has no safety (double action only), It shoots great, is reliable, and what’s not to like about 30+1 rounds of firepower!

    • George on January 27, 2018 at 11:28 am

      Why does everyone hate the safety’s on guns now. Is it really that hard to practice flipping it down when you practice? I personally don’t like these “safe triggers” they keep trying to shove down our throats. If your car salesman told you your new Cadillac was safer now that you don’t have to move your foot to the brake any more because it’s directly under the accelerator, all you have to do is mash the gas to stop you’d walk out of the dealership. That’s the thinking with the safety in the trigger, dumb.

  63. Steve on April 4, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    There was a saying, “people talk .45s, practice with 9mm, and carry .38s…” This has proved true with me, personally. Other guns may be close by, but a S&W 642 .38+P is in my pocket or within reach 24/7.

    I love my .45s, but I can’t carry them and keep my pants up. TOO much weight. Consider you spare ammo weight as well.

    I have several Glock .40s, which I decided 17 years ago, would be my SHTF route for various reasons. Mainly, because of the many public agencies who were then using the Glock .40. With the several years more experience, I now base things on probable availability and three other factors: weight, weight, and weight. These .40 Glocks now employ 9mm conversion barrels.

    As I keep getting older, weight keeps getting more crucial. Less strength and bad joints. 9mms, .38s, now I am even investigating the once dismissed .380, to determine it’s possibilities. Remember, we are talking about EDC, 24/7, self defense, escape, evade. Not favorite nightstand guns.

    You must have it with you at all times. I now avoid if possible, any areas or states where its illegal to CC. Sorry CA friends, won’t be seeing you anytime soon.

    Personal experience, just IMHAO.

  64. Rick on April 4, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    the article states the FBI went back to 9mm because of the ability to land multiple shots on target in quicker fashion. ???
    Why not work on single shot and Correct placement than go back to the 357 mag?
    9mm’s along many semi-autos are designed to spray bullets.

  65. Dale on April 4, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    Like 2War Abn Vet said. And I’ll pay the shipping. I pack a Springer XD40 and have for 10 years. Also have a PX4. Both great weapons. Also I’m not opposed to the 9 or a .45 or any pistol or revolver for that matter. What you have at the time is what serves you best.

    • TheProfessor on April 4, 2017 at 4:50 pm

      Dale I went from a .45 acp Colt Commander to an XD40 sub compact for a few extra rounds in the loaded mag and even more in a pair of full sized mags carrying the grip spacers… Its still lighter than the loaded commander and a pair of extra loaded mags. Lets face it, the Obama administration neutered every federal agency there is…

  66. GRA on April 4, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    40 caliber is NOT dead with me. I’ll take a .40 any day over a 9MM. Those of you who have extras .40 ammo because it’s a “dead” caliber can pass it ALL along to me.

  67. Steve on April 4, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    I have a P99c AS 40 S&W (also CC with my P99) and love it and had no problems, when it comes to guns, ammo, holsters etc., its depends on what you like how it fills, $ and so on.
    I don’t think the .40 will never be dead.

  68. Michael McMaken on April 4, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    The .40 was a compromise caliber. The FBI wanted a round more powerful than the 9mm and went to the 10mm. Their agents couldn’t handle it, so they specifically had the .40 developed for them. It is a compromise between the 9mm and the more powerful 10mm, and was developed at a time when their was a much more limited selection of .45ACP handguns available.

    When you make a compromise, that’s what you get. With modern 9mm ammo, a 9 is every bit as effective as a .40 with greater ammo capacity and more options for inexpensive training ammo. If you don;t like 9mm, you go for a .45 ACP because of its greater diameter and a warm fuzzy about the effect it will have on a bad guy. A warm fuzzy I embrace.

    Capacity? Options were more limited in 1990. My G21 carries 13+1. In 230 gr HP that’s a lot of big rounds that pack a punch. In 165 Cor Bon JHP, that’s a lot of lighting bolts. If you like the .40, by all means carry it and enjoy shooting it.

  69. TheProfessor on April 4, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    your continued commentary about the “diminished market” for the .40 S&W is pure folly. your gunshop buddies who “cant give a .40 away” dont know the difference between a diminished and a saturated market… Here in the real world the .40 dropped from 5 to 1 in competition with the 9mm down to 2 to 1. Your support of the myth that the .40 is dead isnt helping matters with the ignorant either.

  70. Art on April 4, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    The article states in part: “The main issue with the 10mm, is that police and FBI were unable to handle the associated recoil of this powerhouse cartridge, forcing them to find another solution. This is where the .40S&W came into play.” It should state: The main issue with the 10mm, is that female police officers and female FBI agents were unable to handle the associated recoil of this powerhouse cartridge, forcing them to find another solution. This is where the .40S&W came into play. We carried the .45 cal. and had to go to the .40 cal. because the females couldn’t handle the kick of the .45 causing many jams. As you can see, I’m not politically correct.

  71. Rg Willis on April 4, 2017 at 4:46 pm

    I will stay with my .40! I’ve carried one for years. I have one I shoot very often and one I carry daily. Both are s&w medium frame and in earth tone. 15+1 and extra mags with me always.

  72. Dennis on April 4, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    45 acp , I reload what I shoot and just never wanted to get into another caliber , I do 9mm , 38 sp , 357 ma , 45 acp and 44mag

  73. DAVID PRIDGEN on April 4, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    I started with a 38 cal. but not enough power, then went to a 357 magnum revolver, not enough rounds. After much research I went with a Springfield XDS ACP 3.3 45 with four 7 round clips. Great concealed carry with the feeling of enough stopping power. Feel safe with it and my family does to but hope I never have to use it.

  74. Don Norsen on April 4, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    I personally like my Charls Daily 45 for a daily cart and my AMT .380 Auto 9 mm Kurds for back up

  75. R.W. on April 4, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    I’m always amused whenever anyone makes this 9mm improved ballistics argument. The same “improvements” applied to 9mm were also applied to .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and every other caliber. Ammunition companies didn’t just say, “Hey, let’s put this better powder formula and better bullets in our 9mm ammo, and just leave the others as they are, with the inferior stuff.”. So the .40 S&W still enjoys the same ballistic advantage it always had… the technology didn’t make them equal. Now, it may be true that the technology made 9mm acceptable again for the FBI, and it may also be true that many of their agents struggle to control .40 S&W; but there is still a power advantage with the .40 S&W, and if you’re an experienced shooter that doesn’t have that control problem, then the .40 is still the way to go, between those 2 calibers.

    As for cost, my CC weapon is a compact .40, and it gets shot enough to stay proficient; but it’s not the gun I take to the range to shoot all day long, and a compact in 9mm wouldn’t be either… those kinds of guns aren’t especially pleasant to plink with all day, in either caliber. So cost doesn’t really factor into my decision. And while we’re talking compact CC pistols, let’s not forget what comes with that compact convenience; and that is reduced performance. I snicker every time I read a gun mag title like “Full 9mm Power In Small Package!”. Why? Because you don’t get full 9mm power out of compact pistols with short barrels; which is why I stepped up a caliber to .40 S&W in the first place. My compact .40 is almost the exact same size as the same gun in 9mm; .24 of an inch difference in overall length only.

    Most 9mm ammo loses 100+ fps going from a 5″ barrel to a 3″ one, some nearly 200 fps, as proven on BBTI. Let’s take the Cor-Bon 115 gr. DPX in 9mm. Velocity from a 5″ barrel is 1315 fps and 441 fpe. Same ammunition out of a 3″ barrel is 1215 fps and 376 fpe… that’s a significant difference. How do I get similar 5″ barrel energy out of a 3″ barrel? Well, I could shoot Cor-Bon 140 gr. DPX in .40 S&W at 1190 fps and 440 fpe out of that 3″ barrel; same energy as the 9mm out of a 5″ barrel, plus the larger and heavier bullet as a bonus. Or I could load the 3″ 9mm with +P or +P+ ammo; which would recoil just as much as the .40 and would wear out my gun in no time because the pressure is 3500 to 7000 psi greater than both the regular 9mm and .40 S&W ammo… and that’s assuming the compact 9mm pistol is even rated for that kind of hot ammo in the first place.

    Thanks, but no, I’ll be sticking with my .40 S&W when it comes to compact concealed carry. Not to worry, though; my full size 9mm and .45 ACP still get plenty of attention.

  76. Ambers on April 4, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    I started with a 357 magnum and found it to be too bulky and not enough rounds. I liked the power of the 357 so some research pointed me to the EAA Tanfoglio Witness firing 357 Hornaday XTP segmented hollow points. Thank God I have never had to shoot anything but a paper target.

  77. Charlie on April 4, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    Fact is: The Woman Hired into the FBI could Not Handle the 40cal so they went back to the 9mm to get the Politics off there back.
    No more too it, just Plain Politics.

  78. Jrusmc on April 4, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    EDC Glock 23, .40 cal is my comfort zone. I shoot every week & always practice with my EDC Glock 23. I also shoot my Baretta M9 & Sig P229 Elite my S&W M&P Pro Series so I’m very comfortable w/the .40. That being said I know my Glock 19 & Sig Legion & other 9mm in my collection w/124 & 147 grain will get the job done. I’m a gun nut so I have & shoot every caliber from 9mm,40,45,10mm & my Desert Eagle.50 so IMO no specific caliber is”DEAD”

  79. John Hairabedian on April 4, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    I carry a Kimber Pro Carry II chambered in .45. I also carry a Colt Delta chambered in 10MM. Love both guns. Both are deadly accurate. Never cared for the 9MM. If your shot placements are on point, you don’t need 19 or 20 rounds to stop an attacker.

    • Bob on April 8, 2019 at 7:36 pm

      If your shot placement is on point, 9mm is just as effective. The key is the ability to place your shots. That being said, my G20 10mm is my woods gun, while my M&P Shield 9 is my EDC. Anything Underwood for my 10mm, and Federal HST in 9mm.

  80. Dan on April 4, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    As Ed Moser on April 4 commented and if I remember right , the bad guys were on ” pcp ” also , was a wake up call for every one . 🙁

    I have shot pistols for all most 40 years . For deer hunting and one shot / one kill , I use my Ruger red hawk 44 mag. . : -)

    For carry I started with a G-17 , ” I now carry a G-22 with an extra clip ” . The pistols are identical except one is 9mm and the other is 40 S-W . The recoil in the 40 is not much more than the 9mm .

    I have the blessing of shooting off my back deck of the house or walking up closer to the metal bad guys that never shoot back . 🙂
    Thanks Josh for the article

  81. JungleCogs on April 4, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    P239 and Shield; both 9mm for the same reasons as stated.

  82. DAN on April 4, 2017 at 9:45 pm


  83. Gary 2A on April 4, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    I carry 2 pistols. The majority of the time I carry a Ruger SR9c in 9mm. 10+1 in the gun and carry an extra 10 round magazine. Great pistol, solid construction and never quit reliability. Currently using Critical Duty ammo. Looking to try the RIP round as it appears to be a top round for inflicting tissue damage.

    I also carry a Taurus PT-145, in .45 ACP. Another good pistol, have had no malfunctions, double stack magazine holding 10 in the magazine. Easy to conceal like the SR9c (just a little bigger) but I feel the .45 ACP would pack more punch than the 9mm. In the PT-145 I find that it only produces a little more recoil, but is a virtual tie for me with the Ruger SR9c.

    Practice, practice and practice some more with both your draw, pointing (all around from where you stand), and always a double tap at the target.

    Stay safe, stay protected, and remain aware.

  84. Chipburn on April 4, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    I carry an XD in .40 S&W, and plan to continue to do so. Modern 9mm rounds are much more capable than they were, but 40 S&W has also improved, and the 9 will never be “as good”, simply due to the the ballistics of a larger bore and better capability. If you can’t shoot a larger caliber accurately, fine – settle for a smaller one. I am still hanging on to my larger caliber.

  85. robert on April 4, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    Hey Joshua!
    Please give me some facts before you come up with this fake news.
    The .40 is alive and well, and it will never die. 60 Percent LE dept’s uses the .40. Many people carry the .40 CCW.


    • Joshua on April 5, 2017 at 6:58 am

      Thanks for commenting. If you read what I wrote, I actually said that the .40 is not dead, nor do I think it ever will be. 9mm has a bigger following for the reasons stated, and many of the gun shops in my area do not order .40 S&W guns because they cannot sell them. Whenever they get them in on a trade, they sit for several months before eventually moved to an auction. That’s not fake news, those are real statements from local gun shop owners.

      Thanks again!

  86. Mars on April 4, 2017 at 11:47 pm

    Owns Springfield XDm’s calibers .45, .40 S&W and 9mm. and prefer both .40 S&W & 9mm.
    as self defense carry. The .45 for the range for better handling in the use to the lighter calibers I carry.

  87. Bruce Montis on April 5, 2017 at 2:11 am

    I use .22 as it is cheap to buy. Easy to carry more rounds and week placed shots work just as well as any other caliber. I do have a .40 s&w I also use just not as much.

  88. J Lee on April 5, 2017 at 7:46 am

    Never bring a knife to a gun fight. Unless you are willing to use it. You can talk all about caliber but you should see what a knife can do in the correct hands. Enough said.

  89. Steve Cline on April 5, 2017 at 8:53 am

    I carry the Kel Tec PMR30 >22WMR with 25 rounds and two extra 30 rd mags. My backup is a Beretta M9A1 9×19 with the 147 grain fiochi/hornady JHP, with 1 30rd mag. I like ’em both!!

    USMC, RVN, 1969-70
    An Hoa Combat Base

  90. Ron M on April 5, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Glock 27 w extended mag to 13+1 my edc. Glock 43 as backup..

  91. Mark on April 5, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    Xds 45 / XDS 40 / XDS 9 favorite is the XDS 45

  92. Bill on April 5, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    S&W MP 9mm and S&W Shield 9mm S&W VE 9mm.

  93. Higherview on April 6, 2017 at 9:56 am

    I usually carry my PM40 w/ CT Laser Sight. I sometimes carry a Glock 23. While i practice with .40 S&W rounds, I also have a drop in Lonewolf 9mm barrel for practice and added flexibility with the Glock.

  94. John Weir on April 6, 2017 at 10:31 am

    Best option
    Carry the largest caliber weapon that you can use competently, and carry comfortably for your situation.
    If you can’t shoot it well, its more of a liability than an asset. If you cant carry it comfortably, you won’t have it when you need it.

  95. Todd Rosamond on April 8, 2017 at 12:52 am

    I carry a .40 cal Sig Sauer P-226. My wife carries a .40 cal Sig Sauer P-250.

  96. Don Nelson on April 11, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    Well, I Have a Glock 23 I carry from time to time, But on Most days you will find a Full-Size FN FNS9 tucked in an IWB Holster on my hip. 18 Rounds Great Shooter, Fully Ambidextrous what’s not to like?

  97. Dennis Schilling on April 15, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Carried a H&K USP 40 for several years, love the gun and its accuracy, but too big and heavy for good, daily concealment. Moved to a Taurus PT 111 Pro 9mm. Better but still a little wide for constant carry and wanted to go back to the 40. Now have and carry the M&P Shield 40. Still have them all of course, but prefer the M&P.

  98. Caleb Upton on May 19, 2017 at 10:49 am

    I EDC a G23G4 all day everyday I trust my life to it and its a .40 I love it and I’ve always carried a .40

  99. Don Cavalli on June 3, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    I have a CZ75, S&W Dave and S&W Shield, all chambered in .40 cal. My one other carry gun is a Ruger LC380 .380acp.

  100. Pete Chase on June 15, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    I like the ruger 380 I have for conceal. Small fits in my back pocket. More likely to carry it than the 40 SW. But I don’t like it for a backup gun for hunting. You need a hunting round so to avoid ricochet.I had a 44 mag , but didn’t like the weight. I think I’d like a 357 mag in a small lite weight hammerless gun for this. I’m all about weight hunting. I’ll go further.

  101. Jim Bauder on June 15, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    Seriously? This same article has been written a dozen times by different people every year since 2014 with the exact same conclusion. Google “40 SW Dead” and you’ll see what I mean. How about something original?!

  102. David on June 16, 2017 at 6:36 am

    Way way to many hoodrats running around bragging about their multiple 9mm shots they’ve survived.

    • Jim Edwards on August 6, 2017 at 5:36 pm

      Hoodrats still running around because they’re being shot by other hoodrats who don’t know diddly about shot placement. Leg wounds and getting shot n the ass doesn’t count. I shoot a 9, have for decades. My go to is my Browny Hi P. but my back up is a Taurus PT111 n a 9. My sleeping companion is a new BFF, Springfield EMP in .40 cal. I have it in the bedroom because that’s where I feel it belongs. My shot placement isn’t THAT good w/ it yet, but the door to my room is only 12 feet away. I figure in that distance, I could de-nad a hoodrats if that was my call. The .40 will be around for a loooong time because military and LEO magazines are full of the stuff. I am liking the newer heavier bullets that mfgs are coming out w/ for the 9mm though. My thoughts? Long live 9mm. It’s survived a dozen decades so far.

  103. Brandon Green on August 6, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    P229 .40 and a S&W .40 are my choice

  104. okiefromuskogee on August 6, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    On my hip now is a Ruger LC9s. 9mm that I holster in a custom IWB/OWB with 1 extra mag. I purchased a Walther PPS 40 S&W that I enjoy shooting but like enough to make my EDC. Bought a new Walther PPQ M2 45 ACP which I ❤️!!! More “punch”, more mag capacity (12 vs 7), better overall ergonomics (if not BEST on market). and BEST TRIGGER (both pull and reset). Having another custom IWB/OWB holster with extra mag holder made and it will become my NEW EDC!

  105. Rick on August 6, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    I have a Ruger SR40c. I have shot a few hand guns but I do shot my 40 very well. I know a lot us like different cal. But I believe that you should shoot what is comfortable.

  106. John Kettlehake on August 6, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    I have a SIG 229, SP2022 and a M&P shield for summer carry all in .40 wife carries a shield in .40 and set up to reload .40. Don’t think I’ll be done with them for a long time.

  107. Bill on August 6, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    Shield 45. 230 gr PDX1. Extra mag.

  108. John on August 6, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    Walther PPS 9mm M2., glock 27, or glock 42 in front pocket desantis holster. Holster for the 9mm and 40 are stealthgear.

  109. TwoTon on August 6, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    I’ve been carrying a .40, in one flavor or another for years. Had a SIG239, a Bersa .40 Ultra Carry, and now my everyday carry in an EDC is my Beretta Vertec…in .40. I shoot just fine with it, the recoil for me is fine, and while I own other calibers, I prefer the .40 for everyday self defense. Works for me.

  110. Zane8 on August 6, 2017 at 11:54 pm

    Was taught double tap with 9mm, and never found anything that worked better for me. Can’t take the beating of .40 or 10mm when training so have stuck with 9mm.
    Can put two initial shots inside 1″ circle at 10 yds consistently, even under duress, so haven’t looked for bigger caliber seriously since initial professional training. Subsequent shots are also accurate pand effective.
    Everyone needs to determine what they can consistently maintain accurate shooting with and train with that caliber.

  111. John Wolfe on August 7, 2017 at 6:28 am

    1911 in 45 is always with me. Then I keep a 38 with me most of the time.

  112. Stephen Debold on August 7, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    Pretty sure I’ll raise some eyebrows but I am carrying a Kimber ultra carry II in 45 but if I’m wearing light weight clothes I switch to my m&p shield 9. I am confident both would get the job done just like my 45 more,have carried it many years longer.

  113. Roger H Smith on August 28, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Here’s a few thoughts of mine: 1- Carry what you can hit with. Got a .50AE but can’t control it because of recoil, weight, or whatever, then that’s not the one!
    2 – Choose what you’ll actually CARRY. If you’ve got a .45 but won’t carry it because of size, weight, or whatever… then that’s not the one!
    3 – Carry what you can afford to shoot. If you’ve got a .357 Sig. but ammo is too pricey to shoot regularly, then that’s not the one!
    4 – Bottom line is carry what you WILL carry, carry what you can HIT with, carry what you will PRACTICE with and do some homework on the effectiveness on what type of ammo to carry as “duty” or “carry” ammo. Every caliber has different effectiveness within that caliber. That is to say a Golden Saber in 9mm maybe a better choice even though a it was less effective in a .40 Cal. situation. You’ll also need to make sure your carry ammo feeds and functions dependably in YOUR pistol. It would also be prudent to try to pick practice ammo that’s at least close to the same grain weight as your carry ammo.. If you carry a 180 grain HP defensive round and practice with 147 FMJ practice ammo, your point of aim is going to differ enough to make you learn a bad habit of aiming for the lighter practice ammo.. Remember…. under stress, we repeat what we have learned. Above all other things….. CARRY!! The old saying of the first rule of a gunfight is to BRING A GUN! And I’ll close-out with another old saying: Better to be missed by a .45 than hit with a .25! Some of the above things that I’ve listed is exactly why the FBI and many other departments are switching back to the 9mm.. They’ve found in their after action reports that they are seeing a lower percentage of hits per shots fired ratio which is not a good thing! After all… a missed shot has 0% chance of stopping the bad guy and a much higher probability of causing an injury to an innocent. All of what I’ve said is, of course…. IMHO. ?

  114. Chris Hornberger on September 25, 2017 at 5:30 am

    9mm. Part of “better” is cost and viability. 9mm is a fine round, it’s affordable, you can’t swing a cat without hitting a place to buy it, and the plethora and variety of gun styles supporting 9mm is staggering.

  115. Bruce Bennett on September 26, 2017 at 11:42 am

    Glock 34 with 17 + 1 and 21 is mag. Shooting Sig hollow points, Buffalo Bore 146 Hardcast and Underwood 98 grain Penetrators.

  116. jimmy m on September 30, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    Compare these,9mm+p+ 115gr @ 1300 fps mv and 40 S&W 135 gr @ 1400 fps mv same brand and bullet construction.How can they be the same? So now the FBI, the deep state commie FBI, is going to contradict the laws of physics? Just because Americans are turning into sensitive pursues, that’s no reason to attack the 40 and 45.Speaking of the 45, compare the 185gr @ 1200 fps mv versus that +p+ 9mm @ 1300 fps mv.Think for yourselves, the feds are not ballistic gods.

  117. jimmy m on September 30, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    I have 22lr, 22 mag, 7.62×25,380,38 special,357 mag,9×19,357 Sig,40s&w,10mm,44 mag,45 acp, 45 colt,45casull and 500 mag.The kick of the 40 means nothing to me.

  118. Pat on October 31, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    I have both and use both. I like both for varied reasons. Question:. If 9 can make a comeback with advances and redefinition…what is stopping the 40 from doing the same?

  119. JS on November 8, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    Thank you for an honest unbiased article. And mostly thank you for the fact that you are honest and one of the first writers I’ve noticed to be honest about the 9 mm. 9mm ballistically has changed in the past 5 years or longer, but in no way as I’ve heard many claim is a single 9mm comparable to that of a 45 ACP 40 or 10mm or 357 Sig for that matter. What you said is completely in 100% honest that the 9mm allows you to put more shots on target more quickly than the above-mentioned calibers. This Modern myth that the 9 mm is comparable or equal to ballistically to the above-mentioned rounds is comical and just not true. Physics don’t lie and the physics of the ballistics on a 225 grain projectile moving approximately 100 to 200 ft per second slower than a 124 grain projectile clearly show that the heavier projectile will inflict more energy and does more damage on the targeted hits. Let’s not forget the rounds mentioned above excluding 9mm have also scene a ballistic increase ballistic performance that they did not have the same 5 plus years ago. Anyone who wants to argue that needs to go back to school and take a refresher course. Sorry to get on a soapbox but again thank you for writing and honest article.

  120. Brad on November 21, 2017 at 9:27 am

    My EDC is a Springfield Armory 1911 .45acp riding in an OWB Blackhawk holster. Been debating between a Springfield XDM and S&W M&P both chambered in .40. Also a .40 for my wife. Since Springfield just released the XDE in .45, I will check it out while continuing to hope for them to release it in a .40.

  121. Mike Baer on November 21, 2017 at 9:44 am

    EDC, Ruger LC9s. BUG, Ruger LCP. For kicks, Charter Arms .38

  122. Bobby Lee Stepp on November 21, 2017 at 10:56 am

    Well in cooler weather I carry my Rock Island 1911 “45” But in the hot weather here in Tex when it’s hard to conceal I carry a little “32” wich is better than nothing!! I’ll say if your can’t hit anything with what your carrying then you might as well carry rocks byut if you can place the first shots in the right place under stress then a 32 will do the job!!

  123. Stephen on November 21, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Sig Sauer P938 9mm deep concealed and loaded with Hornady 115 grain Critical Defense cartridges.

  124. Harvey T Wright on November 21, 2017 at 1:50 pm

    40S&W VE love it !!!!

  125. Scott achenbach on December 22, 2017 at 3:57 am

    My concealed carry is my 9mm ruger lc9s. Not a big badass for sure lol. But it gets the job done. There are other guns I’d rather carry if they were more easily and more comfortably concealed but since they aren’t, I rock the little pee shooter. At the end of the day I feel what ur willing to carry and feel more comfortable carrying is more important because if its uncomfortable and u decide not to carry it all the time it’s not doing u any good at home in the safe. I could have went with the 380 lcp as it’s easier and more comfortable to conceal but having at least a 9mm makes me feel more confident in it’s abilities.

  126. Ra on January 7, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    My home defense compact is 40 cal, but that is because I live in a 10 round state and my choice is not between 10x.40 and 13x9mm, but between 10 40s and 10 9s

    On the other hand in my single stack carry guns I have 9mm because this means one or two more rounds since they are all less than 10 rounds anyway.

    I will say that the money difference is becoming compelling. When you calculate having a wife and perhaps a kid or two put 500 downrange a year each, you can be talking about $700 in increased ammo costs over seven or eight years solely in the cost difference between calibers.

    When I switch from my 40 cal home defense p229 to perhaps a 320 compact, I will consider going to 9 due to the cost issues. If it means more practice you are better off with a round that you practice more on

    • Steve S on January 8, 2018 at 9:57 pm

      For me, 40 S&W, some things to consider:

      – Depending on where you live, you might not be able to take advantage of the higher capacity magazines of a 9mm
      – Perhaps you want a round for protection from other large creatures that have more than 2 legs, 40 has heavier bullet options. (Not a FBI consideration).
      – Will a +p or +p+ 9 mm cause premature wear on your 9mm depending on model?
      – I can convert my 40 to a 357 sig with a simple barrel swap

  127. Dseese on January 22, 2018 at 4:16 pm

    I carry my S&W SD40VE every day. I love this gun. I shoot at least once a week and work to improve my capabilities with this weapon. I am looking now to buy a cz75b chambered in 9mm, but only for the convenience of less expensive ammo and to expand my arsenal to multiple calibers. I will never NOT have a firearm chambered in .40 cal.

  128. Earl Williams on January 22, 2018 at 5:11 pm

    My CCW problem is that I’m 5′ 9″ tall and weigh 150 lbs. The larger the frame of a handgun the more difficult it is for me to conceal. I always have to choose between magazine capacity and ability to conceal. I go with 9mm. I won’t mention a brand name because I own several different models in 9mm made by several different brands. I like them all. 😉

  129. Tony Lee on January 22, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    9mm Springfield mod 2

  130. Hal Shepherd on January 23, 2018 at 9:17 am

    I have many 9mm, 40 S&W and 45’s. I carry the .45’s most of he time. I like them all. Nothing wrong with the 40. My
    Favorite is the Sig 220; Smith & Wesson 1911SC are two good ones.

  131. Chad M on January 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    Sig P227 .45 caliber

  132. medmo on January 27, 2018 at 4:09 pm

    9mm now and previously. Never switched to the 40 because of the same reasons you stated above. I’ve never felt “under gunned” toting a 9mm. The tragic FBI fiasco in 9mm should have been blamed on tactics and poor decisions not ballistics. Anyone with ANY handgun of ANY caliber will always be the underdog in an armed conflict against a long gun.

  133. Chad on February 14, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Glock 29 in 10mm. This is by far a better platform because the recoil is NOTHING, and the range of 10mm ammo can be tamed down to equivalent of hot 40 s&w. You can also shoot 40 s&w, 357 sig and many other cartridges through this firearm.

    I will bet money that 10mm popularity will be on the increase once folks set aside their preconceived fears that the recoil will rip your arm off, and bullets will travel through 3 concrete buildings.

    • Jared Smith on March 19, 2018 at 4:39 am

      I love the 10MM…I also have a Glock 29SF. nice choice!

    • Jan on March 26, 2019 at 5:37 pm

      I once owned a Gock 20, it was 20 years ago and I had just turned 21. I sold it to afford a needed computer, and that was a dumb mistake. I shot that G20 just fine! Recoil even with fullpower corbon rounds was not an issue! The handguns I ended up liking were not available in 10mm, so I never got another. I probably should find another G20 and hold onto it.

  134. Dwight on February 24, 2018 at 8:26 am

    Statistics have shown with use by police across the country that the 45 ranks highest in stopping (why it was chosen in 1911). The 40 S&W ranked second and the 9mm ranked third. The statement that the nine has improved is a good note, but you don’t think the 40 has followed suit with the same technology of ballistic/terminal effectiveness of bullets? I would much rather fire one shot with the 40 than be trained/ synced to double tap(or three shots) with the nine to ensure effectiveness. Less shots fired, less collateral damage.
    Bottom line is: The caliber you can effectively/accurately use is the best choice. Whether it be a 380, 9mm (my wife uses), 357 sig, 40 S&W, 45 or 10mm.
    I feel blessed we live and can discuss what caliber we feel is most effective for self defense, as opposed to countries you have to use a fork or pointed stick. Also love the smell of gun smoke and Hoppes #9. The best aphrodisiac known. LOL.
    Lastly, support the NRA, it is the longest running, most effective pro-gun that has allowed us to be able to discuss this topic.

    • Jan on March 26, 2019 at 5:31 pm

      Thanks for posting what other people miss! The 40 bullet improves the same as the 9mm! It still weighs more and that heavier mass flies at equal or better velocity than a 9mm, with the same improved bullet technology! I stated below I’m not attached to the 40, I’m not really a big fan of handguns, they are fun to shoot but not as fun as rifles. Handguns are just CC necessity nowadays. I won’t care if the shooting public leaves bullet manufactures to discontinue toe 40 altogether and brass dries up, I’ll shoot and carry 9mm. But if you can handle 40, it is the better round, even if only slightly better. Head and heart shots are the only real stoppers, not 9vs40. The edge that 40 has is enough to validate it however.

  135. Jared Smith on March 19, 2018 at 4:38 am

    My EDC is a non railed P229 in 357 sig. I am not a 357 Sig fanboy, but I am a Sig Sauer fanboy…I know that with modern technology that hot 9mm loads are very effective, even the more tame ones can be effective due to technology, but the 357 Sig was just a personal choice, and one that I don’t feel that I have to defend…carry on.

  136. David on March 28, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    I love my .40, in my eyes it is the perfect concealed carry gun . After years of shooting a 45 longcolt In a ruger redhawk with plus P handloads for hunting the recoil feels like a 22Longcolt . Easy to stay on target , and just oveall fun to shoot .

  137. J on March 29, 2018 at 11:49 am

    45 acp always.

  138. BC on May 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    When LEO’s discuss, “Knock Down Power,” we are really talking about a bullet’s ability to penetrate the target and do the maximum amount of damage per round. I conceal carry a Glock 27 Gen. 4 which is a .40 caliber gun. Like most semi automatics, it doesn’t like using Hallow Points. I’ve personally surmised that the soft point of the hallow point possibly becomes minutely heat distorted before being fed into a hot muzzle causing feed jamming. So, like most on-duty police officers, I’ve always used solid metal jacket ammo for both practice and self-defense. Being a retired Correctional Officer, I long ago decided to carry a .40 caliber backup gun based upon one primary reason; I have escorted many inmates to and from surgery to have a 9mm removed from underneath their skin and muscle. I’ve overheard many inmates discuss among themselves how much it hurts to be shot by a 9mm, but it is survivable. I’ve never witnessed, nor heard, a live inmate say anything about being shot by a .40 or .45 caliber. I also recall an incident when a Sheriff had to shoot an armed drug addict several times to put him down, all the while the drug addict repeatedly tried to shoot the Sheriff with a jammed rifle. Needless to say, the whole department switched to using .45 caliber ammo the very next day! Folk’s can discuss the plus and minuses of the .40 caliber until the “cows come home,” but as for me, based upon real life-and-death experiences’, I’ll never carry anything less than a .40 caliber!

    • BC on May 5, 2018 at 12:47 pm

      I failed to mention in the previous scenario that the Sheriff was using a 9mm to shoot the drug addict. I hope this helps to clear things up.

  139. SD on June 5, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    40cal S&W shield.

  140. Tom H. on June 6, 2018 at 10:33 pm

    Custom 1911 Colt 70 Series Government Model by Legacy Precision LLC in 45 acp 9 round capacity, and 10mm RIA Full Size 1911, 15 round capacity. I can shoot the 1911 platform far better than any other. Out of my Custom Colt, I have put tens of thousands of rounds through it. So those who say that a 1911 is unreliable, are full of shit, or own one that is poorly made. The current 1911 issued to the Marine Corp has cycled without a hiccup. And with a 6 inch threaded barrel suppressed, the 45 acp is movie portrayed quiet. Only need to use FMJs, as a 230 grain bullet, going 850 FPS, will drop a man or even a boar with one shot. Added a Sightmark RMR style red dot sight, and accuracy is unreal. Hitting a 12×12 steel plate at 100 yards is routine practice standing without rest. Which 100 yards is now my confident effective range for my sidearm, and I am no Cpt Alvin York. I encourage everyone to put a quality optic on their pistols. The difference is beyond what I would have thought.

  141. Jay Lacson on July 18, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    I am a .40 man. I love the .40 and have been using the cailber for EDC and for USPSA pistol matches for over 20 years. From what I heard another reason why the FBI did away with the .40 was because the new ‘snowflake” FBI recruits were having a more difficult time hitting the target. Everyone knows shooting a 9mm is a bit easier than the .40. I honestly feel this was the main reason why the FBI went back to the 9mm.

  142. DC on July 30, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    I live in a magazine-capacity-limited state, so when the choice is between 10rds of 9mm vs 10rds of .40, no debate needed. The .45 doesn’t fit my small hands as well or that would be a legitimate choice.

    Another thing these FBI ballistics “tests” fail to take into account is that the human body contains tissue of varying density, not a consistent gel. Bigger & heavier projectiles tend to penetrate hard barriers more effectively. Consider the heavier .40 at comparable velocities to 9mm +P and it’s clear who wins.

    Follow the FBI lemmings off the cliff if you wish, but for my EDC the .40 is it.

    • jan on March 26, 2019 at 5:19 pm

      I like your thinking on this, I may delay my carry switch. I’m still getting a 9mm barrel and mags though, I can keep 40 defense rounds around longer but range time I probably will mix in more 9mm in that carry gun.

  143. Richard Milford on August 15, 2018 at 5:32 am

    My personal carry is a Glock 19 Gen 5. Training with the 9mm if inexpensive and experience is everything when you need to use force. My Duty Firearm is a Glock 22 Gen 4, I qualify with the .40 S&W and usually get a 30/30 every 90 days.

    One thing I have learned is that shot placement is everything, I don’t care if your using a 10/22 LR or a .45ACP. I you can’t show marksmanship with your .40 S&W and your missing shots because you are a small framed female or male that struggle to produce consistent grouping under stress than it doesn’t matter what cartridge has better stopping power.

    I find 9mm 147gr Federal HST defence ammo to expand more than all other 9mm ammo and get consistent penetration that up to FBI standards. This accompanied with marksmanship and affordable training is more suitable for most individuals.

    I noticeably shoot better than most of my colleagues when requalifying with the .40 S&W. I’m a 6’2 245lbs and able to recover sight eye alignment from the .40’s sharp and snappy recoil in a timely manner. This is what allows me to qualify with the .40 better than others.

    I don’t believe the .40 is dead. I just think its being treated like a T-Shirt in the Size of 2XLT SLIM which is hard to find anywhere.. If gun companies have no plans in releasing their new generation striker fired pistols in .40 S&W than what options do you have?

    Things to consider, The .40 S&W is a rough round that causes more wear and tear on pistol platforms that were designed around the 9mm cartridge. If you want a .40 S&W, look into platforms that were designed around the .40 S&W such as the S&W M&P Series and the S&W 4006, The Sig Sauer P229, H&K USP, etc.

  144. GB on August 28, 2018 at 3:23 pm

    I really don’t care what the FBI thinks. My .40 cal Sig P250 works just fine as my CCW and as long as it functions when/if I need it to the only other thing that matters is round placement.

  145. Ray on August 28, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    S&W M&P shield 9mm most of the time S&W 380 if I want to go smaller

  146. Chuck Manning on August 30, 2018 at 3:59 am

    I carry a .45, 1911 Colt, with a .357 snub for backup. However, Josh is slightly deceptive with his reviews. A 9mm isn’t “Well, a 9. It is the same diameter as a .38, or.357. The second point is that there is such a thing as a knock down round. No, it won’t send someone flying 15 feet, but it will put you right on the ground. I saw a man hit with a .45 round in the small of his back. It went through him, and out next to his left testicle. He did the most beautiful spiral into the ground holding his stomach in a fetal position. When I told him he had just been shot, he said: “No, I think it was something I ate.” BTW, that wasn’t a hollow point. It was an FMJ round. You might want to check your facts kid. You’re obviously not as smart as you think you are.

  147. Trapper on November 16, 2018 at 2:16 am

    .45 hollow point with extra magazine. Every day concealed carry.

  148. Ray Antony on December 29, 2018 at 8:23 am

    Most days, Kahr CW45 with Buffalo Bore 185gr hollow points @ 1,150 fps, and a Kimber 10 rd mag. with the same ammo in a knife case on my belt. Kahr factory said CW45 can handle +p ammo, and they are right. So far, there appears to be no undue wear on the gun after 1000 rounds. Not as uncomfortable as one might think, but then again, for some reason, I have always handled heavy recoil well.
    Sometimes I carry a CZ P07 9mm, 16 in the mag, one in the pipe, with Buffalo Bore 124 +P +, 1,300fps. My choice of carry gun depends on what I expect to be doing on a particular day. Summer is Kahr time, winter P07. The Kahr is very concealable, even wearing shorts and a Hawaiian shirt. It is accurate to 30 yards, 31/2 inch groups. I always run drills at various distances, 7, 15, 20, 30 because I believe it’s better for me to know how a gun performs at those ranges.
    The P07, has got to be the most pointable 9mm I have ever shot, which of course is an individual thing, but it’s almost surreal how when I bring it up the sights are automatically on target. Its trigger is also very good out of the box, very little take up in D/A, smooth clean break. S/A is crisp and short.
    I like to max my ammo choice out, which means I will always choose the most foot lbs I can get, no matter what caliber. There are many more choices in bullet weights and velocities in every caliber now than every before. You don’t need to stick to 230 gr. 950 fps, .45 cal. any more or 115 gr. 9mm ammo. As you can see, both loading I have chosen approach .357 mag energies in ft lbs, in similar barrel lengths.

  149. Scott Trythall on January 26, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    For open carry, I use the Sig P320 compact 40. For concealed carry I use the Sig P320 Sub compact in a 9 and the S&W M&P 2.0 shield 9mm

  150. jan on March 26, 2019 at 5:09 pm

    I’m getting a 9mm barrel and mags. I see it going away. I don’t have time to reload both rifle and handgun, and since handgun ammo is a lot less expensive than rifle, I’ll buy factory. I can bulk buy 40 but prefer to still get most from stores, and stores are not ordering 40 like they used to. 40 is actually selling cheaper than 9mm in some cases to move it off the shelves faster and then they don’t want to stock it again. I’ll use it when I can but see it being mostly something you’ll only find online or a larger city Cabelas store where you can still find 10mm and even more obscure magnums. I made the decision on 40 initially because of reports on its use vs 9mm. I have no diehard fan attachment to 40, I’m more like that with rifles, I don’t have any attachment to handguns as a general rule. So whether to continue to carry it or not, I havent made that decision yet but I’m leaning to switch to 9mm. I still think 40 a fun round at the range, the recoil is not an issue at all! I’ll keep the 40 barrel around even if I switch to carrying with the 9mm. I still will mess with 357sig as well.

  151. Col. B on April 7, 2019 at 3:29 pm

    G27 gen4

  152. Mark W. on April 7, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    At this very moment I am wearing a Walther PPQ M2 40 S&W w/5” barrel loaded with Inceptor ARX 40 cal 97 gr ammo in an IWB Leather holster. I love the extra short trigger pull to hit the wall and the ultrashort trigger length to reset! I prefer the light for caliber ARX rounds because they help minimize recoil and time to target reacquisition, vastly improving my overall accuracy. When not wearing my 40, I carry my Walther PPQ M2 45 ACP with ARX 45 cal 118 gr ammo for same reasons as stated above.

  153. Kimber K6S on April 8, 2019 at 2:46 am

    I went back to a 38/357 revolver so I must be nuts. I carry the old “FBI load” 158 grain lead semi-wadcutter hollow point 38 Special +P >1,000 fps and 354 fpe at the muzzle.

  154. Rob on April 10, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    Let’s go to a 5.7 for duty carry……

  155. Mzondo on May 8, 2019 at 11:30 pm

    The FBI and LEO Switching from the 40sw to the 9mm was a one of the biggest
    Mistakes and a lot of people know it but the FBI thinks it was a better choice for the wrong reasons

    The FBI and LEO keeps giving rambling stupid answers to why they switched but please watch the following video’s to the end and you will get a better understanding on why they did what they did and it wasn’t because the 9mm was better than the 40sw, because in reality they went to a less powerful round because of incompetent shooters.

    After watching the video’s you will get a better understanding on why they switched and why it was such a big mistake and just maybe both the FBI and LEO need more training rather than going to a less powerful round.

    Please watch both videos to the end



  156. Peter Linduska on May 22, 2019 at 10:58 am

    Israeli 41AE is dead, but the .40 still alive. If someone like to have the best impact, so reload a delaborated 90grain EMB Solid Monoblock from the Fiocci 9mm in the .357 SIG Brass, with 11 Grain SP1 or slow VIT N3n37 10 Grain 516 M/sec.

    I tested up to 610 m/sec with 75 grain old EMB Hirtenberger bullets out of 9mm brass, with an tested impact more the the .357 Mag 160 grain GECO shooted from a 10 ” S&W revolver.

    I will not recommend such kind of reloaded ammo, but if you are an expert reloader and familar with the .357 SIG,you should test it in a Glock 33 oder SW 2.0 pistol.
    1991 i start with 200 grain 10 mm bullets with the old S&W SIGMA with 9,5 Grain N350 in the ,40, to test such kind of load on car doors. It was long time ago before Hirtenberger start with the 9 mm EMB.

    So the .40 isn`t dead, even also not the .357 SIG. For government usage to expensive. Now the austrian police will change from 9mm FL 100grain into the GECO Action, perhaps extreme.

    From my standpoint as an ex close protection commander the first choice is .40 or .357 SIG with EMB solid monoblock. But FIOCCI will not produce it in .357 SIG only in .40.

    So if you are a PRO security close protection guy or a PMC use .40 or .357 SIG EMB.

    Stay save..greetings from Austria

  157. Mzzond on February 22, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    I’ve spoken with many Ex LEO friends and their friends and a few Ex FBI agents at many gun shows and every one of them said the same thing the only reason the 9mm was chosen by the FBI and LEO was not because the 9mm was a better choice because they all said it wasn’t, it was because there agents and officers were only hitting their targets less than 30 % to 20% or even less of the time that’s right (look up on the FBI report) which they the LEO and FBI agents said was due to recoil of 40SW and 357Sig and the wear and tear on the gun.

    What they tried to emphasize on in their report that with the new technology of powders and bullet design for the 9MM the 9mm was equal to the 40SW and 357SIG

    What they failed to talk about and explain was that the standard 9MM LEO and FBI round is now a 9+p or a +p+ round. Know that so called recoil wear and tear that they blamed on the 40sw, 357sig, 45ACP is just as bad even worse with the 9MM then it was with the 40SW and 357SIG and 45ACP.

    And for all the people who keep saying with today’s new bullet technology and new powders the 9MM is now better and faster round, well guess I hate to break your bubble but that same great bullet technology and new powders also went into making the 40 SW, 357SIG and the 45ACP also a better round. Just look at how now there a making 45acp + p rounds and 40SW rounds going 50-75 FPS faster and that’s something that was never heard of ten-15 years ago.

    So rather than offering better training for their officers and agents with the 40SW and 357sig and 45ACp (which was advised by several agencies) which all the Ex LEO and a few Ex FBI agents all said would be better (which is common sense because they do need it) they went back to the 9MM anyway and all of them said it was under gunning there agent’s and LEO’s.

    All the ones I spoke with said the 40SW and 357 sig and 45ACP were both much better and a more powerful round at taking down people especially the 40SW and the 357 sig when loaded to where it originally was supposed to be (which originally was 1,450 -1500feet per second) for a 125 GR bullet they (ammo manufacturers) watered it down to 1350-1365FPS yet it still out performs any 9mm+p and the 9MM +P+ round) and yet they the FBI and LEO still opted to go with the less powerful 9mm 9mm+p and the 9MM +P+ which they all have said was under gunning there officers to a less lethal round, and they would have been better off having better training for some and an option to choose their caliber for each individual.

    Please watch the following 2 videos below in their entirety and just maybe if you can put politics aside you will understand how the 9mm though a good round and can get the job done but in most cases is not the perfect defense round and the 357sig and 40SW and 45ACP are truly still a better round for those wo can take the time to master it like they should for whatever round they choose.



  158. Jeremy on July 3, 2021 at 9:35 pm

    40Cal it is for me in the form of a Glock 23 gen 3. Yea its got more flip an kick you do have too adjust too a bit for follow up shots but i like the the idea of a bigger round. It was carried for a reason kept around a long time for a reason etc. If the price per round was equal an wasnt for the fact some have issues handling it agencies probably wouldn’t have switched. Just my 2 Cents. While im considering A Hellcat or similar 9mm for a smaller carry piece reason being shell count. Dont like the idea of only having 6-7 rounds

  159. Irvin Quinnelly on January 24, 2022 at 7:04 pm

    I carry an H&K vp9 or a Walther PPS M1 9mm and I dearly love the Walther. But if I could chamber the VP9 for .357 sig, I would do it in a heart beat. The .357 Sig cannot be beat. It has similar ballistics to the .357 magnum and is a fight stopper.

  160. Adam on December 15, 2022 at 1:28 pm

    To me, the questions are
    1. is 25% more energy enough difference to make a difference when trying to make a bad guy change his ways?

    2. Is the increased recoil of the 40 enough difference to make a difference in handling, accuracy, target re-acquisition, etc.?

    3. Is there any difference in capacity?

    4. is the difference in the cost of ammo a factor?

    I’d rather deliver an additional 25% energy if my life depends on it.
    The recoil does not make a difference to me.
    My State limits magazine capacity, so this isn’t a factor
    There is almost zero difference in cost of ammo

    So, for me, I go with the 40.

    • Adam on December 15, 2022 at 1:32 pm

      Correction: 50% more energy. My math was off.

      • Jose Grande' on March 26, 2023 at 1:58 pm

        40 S&W.
        Gel tests do not take into account foot pounds of energy. It is astonishing to me that nobody takes that into account in regards to handgun caliber. If your life depends on something, why carry a caliber at the bottom of the performance scale just because it’s “enough to get the job done ” ?
        The more foot pounds of energy you can deliver to the target, the more the target is going to react to it. And in terms of permanent wound channel, why would you not want a larger diameter permanent wound Channel to increase blood loss faster than a smaller one?
        I have also read that the FBI has had issues with qualifying with the 40smith and Western because it is more powerful. When you don’t get to choose your agents, you have to take what comes in. If you have a smaller stature person, who has issue with recoil, they won’t qualify as easily, but that has nothing to do with Target performance. And I’m sorry, there is no way in the world that the 9 mm is going to outperform the Smith & Wesson in any way shape or form. Number one it’s going to give you more foot pounds of energy, number two it’s going to cut a larger diameter wound channel. No matter what they want to say, physics does not change. As the quality and lethality of the 9mm Parabellum has come forward, the 40 Smith & Wesson has been in parallel if not in the lead of performance even before the introduction of higher quality bullets. Personally, I would say that the FBI changed because it’s cheaper to shoot 9 mm ammunition, because they probably go through millions of rounds every year in training, it’s easier for recruits and established agents who may be recoil sensitive to qualify, and I guess, two rounds of extra capacity might make a difference in a situation where you’re running to the gunfire rather than running away, but still. Handgun Ammunition is anemic in comparison to Rifle rounds or shotgun rounds, why would you take the bottom of the power scale as a choice unless you are not able to shoot the 40 Smith & Wesson. Physics does not lie, nor does a micrometer. More is more, larger hole is a larger hole.

        • MarkyVoftheCOP on October 24, 2023 at 10:15 am

          Plenty of what U’ve just mentioned is accurate about the components to “Stopping Power” of handgun level cartridges. 2 ROUNDS, yep 2, is what the, “more capacity”, crowd expounds on. SO it seems They must feel 3/4/5 rounds per incapacitation is how things go now a days ?? Look, I’ve only shot in competition, so no skin inthe game stories from Me, HowEver, if each projectile delivers about a THIRD more, . . . . “Effectiveness(??)” per strike, LEARN TO SHOOT BETTER !! YESSS, Technology has gotten better for PROJECTILE Effectiveness, that goes for ALL PROJECTILES, BUTTT, the 9’s ballistics are The SAME as they’ve been for Decades !! An 1150/1200 fps 124 grain pill that pounds adversaries line an HST is More effective than a 1986 Silvertip -Duhh !! BUTTT, a 180 grain .40 HST at about a 1000 fps, give or take, WAY Trumps a 124 grainer, & W/a smoooth report & lack of Snappy kick, just ask PLENTY of practical shooters, not just accountants(!!) -B Well ..

  161. MarkyVoftheCOP on October 21, 2023 at 1:44 am

    Well, if this isn’t a dead horse timeframe for this comment, GREAT !! So for those that mention “fewer rounds”, REALLY ?? 2, its 2 rounds of mag capacity ‘tween the M&P compacts 9 vs
    .40 avaliable capability, TWO. Yep, some, .40 loadings “snap” in recoil discernably more than Most 9’s, less projectile weight W/similar velo’s do that, However, this “technology Thaaanng” is another animal for bullet(projectile)performance MOST sell the .40 short(pun intended) on. Both Gold Dots AND, (My fav) HSTs truly capture that “tech”, by not only Reliably performing, but do so in a format/recoil level, that appreciably enhances “Stopping potential” of comparable rounds in similar drill exercises. Controlled pairs msy Not sound as “sexy(??)” as the Double Tap, BUTTT, has proven much more successful. Bottom line, 14 More capable rounds, VS. 16 “good Enough(??)” ones, seems EZ to choose -B Well.

  162. Mk Abe on February 21, 2024 at 4:28 pm

    No one can argue the established physics of this caliber discussion. The 40 S&W will always hit harder and do more damage regardless of “Magic Bullet” nonsense! An expanding 40 will do more damage and a non-expanding will do more damage than a 9mm.
    It you can’t handle the recoil of a 40 go with a 9, or maybe a 22. But the 40 will always deliver more energy and momentum.

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