Another Reason Avoidance is Best — Judge Denies Motion to Dismiss Civil Suit Against Acquitted Kyle Rittenhouse
You would be wrong if you figured Kyle Rittenhouse's legal battle ended when a court acquitted him of murder and other charges for justifiably shooting 3 men in self defense. This is yet another example of why, if possible, avoiding conflict is always the wisest action.
Rittenhouse's Defensive Gun Use in Kenosha—
So most everyone knows what happened on August 25, 2020 at a Black Lives Matter protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Any reasonably, non-biased view of the facts in the case clearly illustrates that Rittenhouse acted in self defense when he shot 3 men; one who chased after him and tried to disarm him of his rifle, another who chased after him, swinging a skateboard attempting to strike Rittenhouse in the head as Rittenhouse lay on the ground, and another man who ran toward Rittenhouse pointing an illegally possessed handgun at him.
The Criminal Charges Brough Against Rittenhouse—
In a clearly political move, prosecutors charged Rittenhouse. Knowing they had no way of winning, prosecutors used the public trial to gaslight the public into believing Rittenhouse was an alt-right neo-nazi. An assertion proved erroneous. The point was not to convict Rittenhouse, which they couldn't, but to demonize him. And then anyone who would dare to believe that someone had the right to defend themselves. If you believed what Rittenhouse did was not wise, but clearly justified, you too were an alt-right nazi. Of course, the media and maniacs in the streets even threatened the jurors with doxing and rioting if they ‘decided wrong'.
Rittenhouse legally defended his life against three men in the streets of Kenosha. He defended his freedom against a politically motivated prosecutor in a court of law. Kyle defended and continues to defend his reputation against baseless accusations. And he is trying to protect whatever assets he has after paying for legal defense, to defend against a civil suit brought against him by the family of one of the men who tried to kill him.
The Civil Suit Against Rittenhouse—
The father of an adult who attacked Rittenhouse with a skateboard wants money. No doubt he grieves for his son. Any decent father would. But the arguments in this civil suit against Rittenhouse are nonsensical and proven false in the criminal trial.
The Deceased Attacker is actually a Hero—
For example, in the suit, the father claims his son was a “hero” and was trying to disarm Rittenhouse. The claim in the criminal trial was that somehow the 3 men were ‘good samaritans' who thought Rittenhouse was an active shooter, and they needed to stop him. A claim that prosecutors couldn't substantiate with evidence, witness statements or ‘victim' testimony. The complaint filed by the man's father reads:
After Anthony was shot, Gage Grosskreutz approached Defendant Rittenhouse with his hands up, pleading with him to stop his shooting rampage. Without provocation or any legal justification, Defendant Rittenhouse shot at Grosskreutz from point-blank range, hitting him in the arm. Thankfully, Grosskreutz survived.
Yeah, this description of events is complete fantasy when compared to all the evidence presented at trial.
Rittenhouse is an alt-right Nazi—
The complaint also attempts to use the same failed approach prosecutors used in the criminal trial—frame Rittenhouse as a racist. The ‘you're a racist' argument works on social media. But the same question that the prosecutors couldn't provide an answer to in the criminal trial lingers. If Rittenhouse is so blinded by racial hatred, why did he only shoot people of his same race? The answer is clear, because he only shot people who he reasonably believed were going to cause him death or serious bodily harm, period.
Rittenhouse Violated Statutory Gun Law—
In the complaint, the attacker's father drummed up fake news spread by the media that Rittenhouse brought the AR15 he used to defend his life across state lines in violation of law. The morons in the media repeated this, although with basic journalistic investigation, they would find the claim completely untrue.
What's the Point—
The point is that if you carry a firearm for self defense; you need to know that in some states, even if you're acquitted, you can still face civil suits. While the saying may be true, that ‘dead men don't sue,' it fails to mention that their families do. And they do it all the time.
You also need to remember that whether it be a criminal or civil trial, you can assume that anything the opposing side can do to twist, invent, or bring into question your character or actions, they will. It doesn't have to be true.
So my advice is:
- Live your life in a way that always seeks avoidance, if possible. This post on the proper defensive mindset explains this concept more deeply. In essence, live out: Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
- Be careful what you post on social media. This isn't about censoring your right to speak. Say what you want to say, it's your right. Stand up for what you believe in. But do so in a way that doesn't bring your character into question.
- Know the law. Not just gun law, but self defense law. Book from Andrew Branca is a must for every person who even thinks about carrying a gun for self defense.
- Consider a self defense legal membership service like CCW Safe. The amount of money necessary to defend against a political prosecution, and or civil lawsuit is astronomical. Remember, the state has unlimited funds (part of which you pay for, if you pay taxes) available to use against you. How much money do you have to defend yourself?
Let's hear your feedback.
The only problem i have with some of these self defensive shootings is i see a lot of people go to places and do thinks and say things that they wouldn’t normally due unless they were armed, for me if you wouldn’t engage in some of these activities unarmed then you lose your credibility with me.
The problem is some people get brave all of sudden when they have a gun which is never a good ideal
We have a right to go were we please. At no time should we be denied because of thugs and other jackwagons claiming turf.
You do have the right. Having a right to do something doesn’t mean it is a good idea or that you should
Free men have a duty to protect their families and their communities. If those who “protect and serve” our communities abrogate their duty, like they did in Kenosha, then it unfortunately falls on men like Kyle Rittenhouse to step up.
To suggest that we should let violent mobs destroy communities is cowardly and ultimately will lead to destruction. You are not a free man if you idly stand by.
If Rittenhouse would have stayed at the car lot he was supposedly there to protect instead of walking the streets armed as he was, he wouldn’t be in this mess. He lived in Antioch, IL in the first place. He was way to immature to be handling that weapon. He had no military training so you can’t use the fact that many 18 year old young men fire M4 rifles in battle. This was as avoidable tradgedy. Protect your home for sure and your community when called upon. This incident was nothing like that.
He was not a man He was a boy who got someone to buy him the gun because he was not old enough
Kyle did nothing WRONG. He was standing up for a community he worked in. He lived about 30 minutes from Kenosha and had friends there. He stood up for his beliefs. From some of the comments here I would guess most would look the other way instead of standing up or hide in their basements ignoring what is happening in our society today. As far as not being able to handle an M4, how do you know he didn’t have trained at a gun range under the guidance of a instructor. Wake up to the ever changing problems our communities face. The civil case against him is a JOKE. SHOULD BE DISMISSED.
He was absolutely dead wrong. He’s a stone cold murderer and if he hadn’t been armed, in a town and state in which he didn’t live, those men would be alive today. He’s a delusional teenager with borderline personality disorder.
What law did he break? None. He has a right to go anywhere he chooses. If he hadn’t been armed, he would be dead. Those men would be alive today if they weren’t there or decided to attack and assault the kid. Their choices are why they are not alive today. The only delusion is your thought process.
Actually it’s antisocial personality disorder.
I watched some of the videos taken by bystanders and the first man he shot and ended up killing was trying to take the rifle away from, not accost him! When a girl screamed he shot him and he just shot someone just before that, the others were trying to take the rifle! After seeing the CVS video of him wishing he had the rifle so he could shoot the people going in and out I find he was there to shoot people period! He brought this on himself! Now he has handlers that believe in gun violence like MTG that back him up. He cries about people harassing him over this. His biggest mistake was taking a weapon, having mom drive him there and start shooting people without asking questions. 2nd thing is and his biggest mistake now is jumping on twitter and trying to act like a 40yr old defending the republican way and talking about things an 18yr wouldn’t know anything about!
Examples? I’m waiting…
One could say the same thing of the looters and attackers so what’s your point. One can make the claim that if the rioters had not destroyed private property no one would have been there. Does him being there somehow relive him of his right to survive?
Noone should ever go and be confrontational because there armed, that’s no longer self defense. However being “brave all the sudden when they have a gun” is pretty much the whole point of self defense. It empowers you to protect your family, self and or Joe Blow at the grocery store when without that gun you would not be able too. In any other form you’re correct, that’s not self defense though.
If everyone who was capable would have stood in solidarity with Kyle that night. If there were hundreds of armed citizens protecting property and keeping an eye on things, there wouldn’t have been any problems that night. Unfortunately it’s left to the few who are brave enough to actually do something about it. We absolutely should not put up with people acting like that in our communities. I’m proud of Kyle for trying to do something. You can cower in your basement if you want, hopefully there will be a Few Good Men around when your community is being overrun.
Well too late for laying low He is the far rights new poster boy. He is promoting a video game where he is the shooter and he is shooting turkeys with names like fake news etc on them. He is arrogant and smug and shows no symphony.
You seem to forget that before he was being chased down, he actually HAD shot someone already, hence the reason why he was being followed. They didn’t start following him for no good reason.
That is a misleading way to explain what happened. Before shooting two other people who attacked him with a skateboard and pointed a handgun at him, you’re correct in saying he shot someone. That someone was Rosenbaum. Before shooting him, he was chased by Rosenbaum, attacked by Rosenbaum, and Rosenbaum tried to disarm him.
The person who pointed the handgun should have just shot Kyle since Kyle had a gun, and had already killed someone else. That was surely enough to justify shooting him right? The victims mistake was having more mercy than Kyle who would rather murder than risk getting slapped around.
If you disregard the facts and don’t follow self-defense legal principles your 100% right.
It’s absolutely amazing how there is so many people here attacking Kyle and wishing harm upon him. A Pedophile, felons, rioters and random scumbags are to be put on a pedestal however? Y’all are delusional. Perhaps when scumbags take over your neighborhoods, you’ll have an epiphany. SMH
So by your logic Kyle knew who he was killing. Another fun fact. You don’t need to defend yourself if you don’t walk into a situation where you don’t belong carrying a weapon of was running around thinking your GI Joe. . Sit your ——- home; problem solved.
No he didn’t know the scumbags he killed, it just turns out that he benefitted society more than he knew. As for “running around like GI Joe”, Kyle exhibited incredible restraint, as much or more than could be expected from professional training. The people he shot were actively trying to murder him. The people he didn’t shoot were not.