Episode 172: Retention – 8 Times Gun Owners Lost Their Guns & Lost the Fight

Topic: Retention – 8 Times Gun Owners Lost Their Guns & Lost the Fight

Jacob & Riley review 8 different instances where Concealed Carriers had their guns taken off of them in an encounter primarily due to retention issues. How can you prevent this from happening to you? Press ‘PLAY' to listen now!

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About Riley Bowman

Riley Bowman is the Director of Training at ConcealedCarry.com and the Host of the Concealed Carry Podcast. He came up in this world initially through his 8-year experience with a state-level law enforcement agency in Colorado. Riley has trained extensively under instructors such as: Rob Leatham, Mike Seeklander, Tim Herron, Scott Jedlinski, Matt Little, Kyle Lamb, Dave Spaulding, Jeff Gonzales, Bill Blowers, Chuck Pressburg, and others, amassing many hundreds of hours of formal shooting and tactics training. He is an NRA Pistol Instructor, a Colorado P.O.S.T. Handgun and Patrol Rifle Instructor, a graduate of Trident Concepts Concealed Carry Instructor course, and a Modern Samurai Project Endorsed Instructor. He also competes in USPSA and 3-gun competitions including numerous top-10 finishes at major matches and championships. He is the current USPSA Carry Optics Colorado State Champion and most recently won 3rd place in Master Class at the 2022 USPSA Carry Optics National Championship.


  1. Joe Starkey on November 9, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    Please always have a written version of your articles. I don’t have sound for a couple of reasons and really dislike waiting on a talking head. My reading and comprehension speed is much higher for the written word than verbal.


    • Riley Bowman on November 9, 2017 at 11:34 pm

      Joe, I understand what you’re saying. At this time it is cost prohibitive for us to transcribe the podcast episodes. So I am sorry that we do not have plans anytime soon to have a written version of the podcasts. We have tons of written editorial and articles available already on our site here. These podcasts are produced to satisfy a large audience that prefers audio content for various reasons, but many of them listen while they commute to work or while they’re working. Sorry I can’t be of more help.

  2. Matt on November 15, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    This podcast really has me rethinking appendix carry. I’m still fairly new to concealed carry (carrying about 4 years now) and was always apprehensive of appendix position because of all the goodies that are in that area (mainly the femoral). I currently carry IWB with a hybrid holster about 4:30 and it’s very comfortable and I can pretty reliably reach sub 1.5 second hits from concealment. Retention is decent, but definitely not great. At this point in my CC “walk”, I’m very comfortable with everything I’m doing from a safety aspect, which is kind of pushing me to explore now the appendix position. Hindsight, I would gain 3 things; better holster retention, a quicker draw, and a less vulnerable gun. Thanks for a great podcast and not doing a ton of back and forth between hosts banter that drives me crazy on other podcasts. Y’all tend to get right to the subject ( most of the time 😉

    P.S. Jacob’s laugh at 1:07:42 Ha!

  3. Mitch on February 20, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    Always have at least one backup weapon

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