HR 125 Text Added – Here’s What it Says: Lies
The same person who had put forth Friday's bill, HR 127, has put forth this one that is known as the “Gun Safety Not Sorry Act of 2021.” I'm not joking, that's the actual title of the bill on the website.
2021 is starting to look like the anti-gun politicians are lobbing as many gun control bills as they can just hoping that something is going to stick. At this point in the game, I don't think they even care as long as something gets passed.
In terms of gun control bills HR 125 is filled to the brim, in fact it's over flowing, with lies and BS. They want to put a 7 day waiting period to transfer a semi-automatic firearm, silencer, armor piercing ammunition, or a “large capacity magazine.”
Why do they want to do this? Well, let's take a look at just a few of the lies they're putting forth as reasons in this bill.
Some of the lies:
(1) There is nearly one mass shooting per day in the United States—355 mass shootings in 2015.
After a tiny amount of research into the year 2015 with the help of the FBI.gov website, I've determined that this is a lie. Not only is their number wrong, it's really, really high. How high? Well, according to the FBI the number of active shooter incidents for the quoted year was 20.
But facts only apply to you if you're a peasant. If you're a congressman or woman living the high life, then facts don't matter and you can make things up as you go.
(3) Since December 2012, there have been at least 1,518 mass shootings, with at least 1,715 people killed and 6,089 wounded.
This is an interesting statistic, especially since the FBI has concluded that there have been 277 active shooter incidents from 2000 to 2018 with 1,545 wounded and 884 people killed during that 18 year span.
But you don't have to take my word for it, you can find out more here on their website.
(5) Every day, on average, 92 Americans are victims of gun violence, resulting in more than 33,000 deaths annually.
Once again according to the FBI website, total murder victims for the year 2018 (the last year calculated) was 10,265 murders where a firearm of any type was used. What's likely happening with this one is that they're adding suicide numbers to the total to inflate things.
While suicide is sad, it's totally different than “gun violence.”
And just to give out another interesting statistic, long guns (rifles and shotguns) were used to kill a total of 532 people in 2018, while hands, fists, and feet were used 672 times in the same calendar year. Maybe we should ban people's fists instead of the AR-15?
Just a thought. Moving on, and this next lie pisses me off more than the others for some reason.
(9) Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 33 years: 0.
This is my last one because I could be here all day debunking these idiots and proving them to be liars. We know for a fact that gun owning civilians are stopping “mass shootings.”
Just off the top of my head the Texas Church shooting rings a bell. Why wouldn't they count that one? Oh, I know why … because it doesn't fit their lying agenda. And this is just one. There are countless others and I know this because we cover them whenever we can on our state sites (like texas.concealedcarry.com).
Here is a link to that video, but watch with extreme caution with the understanding that you'll be watching people die, including the gunman.
Conclusion:
Those are just a couple of their “facts” (or what they call “findings”) that I figured I'd take the time to research and debunk. But by quick glance I know that they're inflating all of the numbers across the board to make things sound worse than they actually are.
When I was a prison guard, some of my former co-workers had a saying that went something like this: I can tell you're lying because your lips are moving.
Now, I never said or even thought that of my inmates on a broad spectrum. However, when it comes to anti-gun politicians I can tell they're lying whenever their lips are moving or their pens are writing or their keyboards are getting pounded on.
Why? Because they know that the only to get what they want passed is by lying about the actual numbers to make them seem worse.
This can be seen by utilizing some quick searches on their own FBI.GOV website. All they have to do is look to see the truth. Unless, of course, the truth does not matter to them and they're blatantly trying to eviscerate our rights.
This is disturbing because the anti-gun politicians believe these things. They either make up these lies themselves or someone is feeding them this crap and they're stupid enough to believe it. Either way, it's not good.
If you want to reduce your IQ by reading the text, you can find it here.
Until next time, my friends, you can leave your comments on this below.
We do not need HR 125. Leave it as is!
How many fuxxing gun control laws are there on the books? You are just driving law abiding citizens underground (meaning you are pissing people off and the end results are not going to be nice)
It’s all designed to be a Communist country,period. That’s the agenda like it or not. Hillary, Obama, Bush, bill Clinton, clapper, breanan, pelosi, Schumer, all of them. They been getting rich for years selling out the USA to China. They to get the election cause they knew trump would get over 100 million votes, and did until they swapped enough for China Joe to win. Why do you think Joe did not campaign, he knew it was fixed. The bad thing is the Republicans knew it too and did nothing. You want my guns, better bring yours.
Thanks so much for this information and your research to help us be more “armed” with knowledge and truth. These are great facts we can share with others, especially our Senators and Congress.
They think they have to unarm law abiding citizens for ther next step to communism
Good points. It seems like all of your cited issues stem from having different definitions of key terms though (e.g., gun violence)? Why don’t you spend more time on why your definitions are superior, with evidence, instead of playing the “gotcha game” through repeatedly citing the FBI.Gov website over and over.
Of course your numbers won’t match all across the bill if you use a totally different definition. That’s not compelling by itself, ya know?
Why would I need to define anything when the FBI already has? These aren’t my numbers, and they’re not something that I made up. These are numbers coming from their law enforcement agency. Maybe the proper question would be why are they inflating their numbers instead of using those put forth by people who have actually studied the subject?
Charlie, why don’t you just take the time to double check the numbers he quoted off of the FBI’s official website instead of questioning his agenda?
It would seem to me if you were on this page you would appreciate someone explaining to you about the inflated numbers these people are using instead of them using the factual information available.
It’s to the point we can’t trust the majority of the politicians when it comes to our second amendment rights.
I always ask this question when the subject of gun control comes up. What does the government have planned for it’s citizens that they’re afraid you’ll want to shoot them for?
Thank you Joshua for your research, and for bringing this to our attention. Without someone shining a light on this garbage, it would just slide through without getting noticed. Most of all, thank you for your passion and great writing to get the message across!
Without attacking you Charlie, they use terms like “gun violence ” which are deliberately vague just so they (politicians) can inflate numbers and create an emotional instead of a factual response. Citing the FBI reports is not playing a “gotcha game” it’s presenting facts to counter their lies. Many of those who are trying to pass these laws have no idea what they are speaking of. I’ve seen multiple accounts of them displaying guns and saying things about them that totally shows their complete ignorance of the subject. Look up the congressman talking about “30 magazine clips”. The idea that they keep asking why we would need a semi automatic weapon to hunt, makes me wonder if they understand the Constitution any better. If you haven’t, I’d suggest you read the 2A. It says we have the right to keep and bear arms, it doesn’t say we have the right to hunt, nor does it say the right to keep and bear arms, but only certain types or under certain conditions. The “Gun Rights ” people always seem to ignore our first (or second) Right to Bear Arms. But willing change definitions to suit their arguments to try and deny us the very right that protects not only our other rights, but against an oppressive government, which is the entire reason it was penned in the first place.
Thank you for providing the knowledge needed to stay strong.
While reading this well written article, it occurred to me, that I had come across some of those inflated numbers while helping my teenage daughter research a health class paper she was writing. The author of HR 125 picked the most shocking and inflated numbers produced by our government about firearms.
The numbers come from a publication on the CDC website. Now, don’t ask me why the Center for Disease Control, feels the need to track gun “violence”, or for that matter anything about firearms. But that is where the numbers in HR 125 originated. I mean, the CDC isn’t even part of Homeland security! The last time I checked we had ATF, the FBI, and The Bureau for Criminal Identification (in Ohio), for tracking.
HR 125 is not TECHNICALLY full of lies, but the language is not just leaning left, it practically falls over to the left!
The problem (as suggested by other commenters) is that anti-2FA activists intentionally use the term “mass shooting” to make the numbers sound more scary because they usually include crimes that most people don’t associate with school shootings including drug, gang, and domestic violence incidents, domestic terrorism, etc. It’s technically not a lie but a deceitful misdirection. Those incidents are not what people imagine when you talk about school and mall shootings, which are properly called “active shooter” events by the FBI. A clear indication that an idea is a bad and intentions worse is when it’s promoters have to lie and deceive to make it palatable.
Many of you are aware of the gap in control the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) has left behind. Due to the GCA not defining “selling guns for profit” any individual may sell firearms without a license if their motive isn’t to make a profit for livelihood through repeated and regular sales.
Well, this lack in clarification actually enables guns to fall into the hands of users who might otherwise not be allowed to own a firearm, due to the fact those that are selling aren’t required to have a FFL and those buying aren’t legally subject to a background checks. AKA meaning anyone can pretty much buy and sell from each other.
With that being said, there needs to be at minimum, a definition to be made in order for the GCA to have the control it was meant to have or a way in which gives buyers and sellers more time to rationally think.
You may not like to wait seven days for what you want (as individuals in our society have grown quick impatience towards waiting for our wants and needs to be meet), but this isn’t about you. This is about the kid with depression looking to get a gun because he wants to kill himself or even his whole school, this is about the racist, sexist, etc. individuals who want to make their opinion known by killing people.
It’s time to start thinking of others, you can wait seven days to save some lives.
When you say “AKA anyone can pretty much buy and sell from each other” what do you mean? Sure private individuals can sell their property to someone else if they are not operating as a buisness. People are not businesses and should not fall under the same regulations as businesses. Furthermore many states have enacted laws prohibiting private party gun sales, and some have not. Criminals get guns in both states. Are you suggesting that a law prohibiting private party gun sales would deter a criminal from buying a gun illegally? That seems silly to me.
Your premise that anyone buying a gun needs more time to ‘rationally think’ is quite presumptuous, don’t you think? I am finding it hard to believe that the Americans who purchased 40 million guns last year alone, needed more time to rationally think. Additionally, around 72 million people reported owning guns. It is likely a much higher number. It is troubling that you would presume to know what is best for all these Americans simply because they made the choice to own a gun?
Waiting periods might sound like a non-invasive, easy fix. But I suggest you research the effects waiting periods have had on suicides. No honest study has shown them to have any positive effects on suicide rates. All suicides are tragic regardless of method. Did you know in 2018 there were 48,344 suicides? I knew a few of these people personally and each incident is very tragic. Of those suicides, a firearm was used in a little less than half of the incidents 24,432. However, firearms are used by people to defend themselves an estimated 500,000 – 2 million times a year. This is a staggering number even on the low end. We can’t simply dismiss it. Waiting periods would take away a viable option for many people who need a firearm to defend themselves. In fact, there are several incidents in states with waiting periods where a woman with a restraining order against an ex, purchased a gun and was killed during the waiting period.
Furthermore, you have conflated issues and jump from ‘waiting periods help prevent suicides’ to ‘waiting periods stop people from killing people.’ Neither one of these statements has been backed up with any actual data. And you haven’t tried to make a compelling argument that would sway anyone. It is more of an assertion based on your personal feeling.
You seem sincere in a desire to reduce suicides and murders from firearms. Noble and actually something that I am also very passionate about. However, I hope you use that motivation to look at the issue honestly. Not wanting to wait 7 days to purchase a gun is not selfish, nor does it mean the person does not think of others. Gun owners intervene in thousands of incidents in doing so save lives with their guns. The overwhelming majority of gun owners actually do think of others and risk their lives for perfect strangers. Criminals don’t. It isn’t honest to equate the two groups simply because they both own firearms.
Thank you for your post and for the conversation.
Why do people keep bringing up the election being fixed? Again, there is no proof. The Republicans had over 60 hearings in court and could not produce any proof of fraud, yet they are still spreading this information. Also, this article is about H.R. 125, not the election.