S8E2: “Can it be Used Against Me?” with Don West

Topic: “Can it be Used Against Me?” with Don West

Today, Riley Bowman and Jacob Paulsen sit down with Don West, National Trial Counsel of CCW Safe, to discuss common ideas that people have about what can and cannot be used effectively against a person in a defense trial. Tune in!

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About Riley Bowman

Riley Bowman is the Director of Training at ConcealedCarry.com and the Host of the Concealed Carry Podcast. He came up in this world initially through his 8-year experience with a state-level law enforcement agency in Colorado. Riley has trained extensively under instructors such as: Rob Leatham, Mike Seeklander, Tim Herron, Scott Jedlinski, Matt Little, Kyle Lamb, Dave Spaulding, Jeff Gonzales, Bill Blowers, Chuck Pressburg, and others, amassing many hundreds of hours of formal shooting and tactics training. He is an NRA Pistol Instructor, a Colorado P.O.S.T. Handgun and Patrol Rifle Instructor, a graduate of Trident Concepts Concealed Carry Instructor course, and a Modern Samurai Project Endorsed Instructor. He also competes in USPSA and 3-gun competitions including numerous top-10 finishes at major matches and championships. He is the current USPSA Carry Optics Colorado State Champion and most recently won 3rd place in Master Class at the 2022 USPSA Carry Optics National Championship.


  1. Aimee on February 6, 2023 at 4:16 am

    Really enjoyed this podcast as it gave me actual perspective on how the justice system works and pointed out alternative methods before going to use of a gun.

  2. Ron on February 11, 2023 at 10:26 am

    Really enjoyed the presentation. I have a question. It was mentioned that cerakote can be considered as a modification to a firearm that may be used against you. I purchased a 9mm handgun with a cerakote slide. I didn’t modify the handgun. Cerakote is a protective coating that can protect the metal surface from corrosion, etc. How can cerakote modification be used against a law abiding gun owner? Please advise thank you.

    • Jacob Paulsen on February 13, 2023 at 6:57 am

      Ron, when Cerakote is applied only as a protective coating I can’t imagine that would have the potential to be very damaging. The reference in this episode was more related to those who apply Cerakote in a cosmetic manner to paint some sort of design on the gun. For example a big Skull and crossbones across the slide might speak to the gun owners frame of mind in a negative way.

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